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Offline Skybison

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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2017, 02:11:44 am »
Do you think Lana the Ultimate Dynamic Reverse Paragon Dragon even think's he's fooling us?  Everyone, I think, at this point has made it clear we know it's him but he's still playing dumb.

Honestly Lana, if you're not Paragon why do you even want to post here?  You don't seem to be active on the mainsite (I searched to see if you'd commented there I got nothing) and mostly just fight with people who've made it clear they dislike you on topics where you obviously disagree with the rest of the board from day one.

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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2017, 02:23:07 am »
And in any case, I don't understand why departmental representation is so important. If the BBC is like most private corporations...

Oh dear...

Listen yankee-doodle, outside the land of Guns, Gawd and Gorporations, government funded broadcasters are a thing! Auntie has never, ever been a "private corporation."

Anyway, whose goalposts are we talking about? Is this a diversity policy for scriptwriters or for all and any arms of the British government funded British Broadcasting Service inclusive of janitorial and help desks?
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2017, 05:40:46 am »
Do you think Lana the Ultimate Dynamic Reverse Paragon Dragon even think's he's fooling us?  Everyone, I think, at this point has made it clear we know it's him but he's still playing dumb

1) He is trying to troll and thinks unrealistic demands of proof get under people's nerves

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2) He really thinks he is being smart and fooling some people and gets his kicks from a delusion of being smarter than others.
edit: 2.1) He thinks this as some kind of game where as long as we don't have the level of proof he demands he is winning and is smarter than us.
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2018, 06:18:19 pm »
What are my ideas on the 'alt-right', cracker? I can't recall having expressed any recently.

Edit:You complain that there is no evidence. My point is textual similarities are evidence. If textual similarities were not considered evidence of authorship entire bodies of scholarship would break down.

So if your posting styles are the same it is evidence that they share an author.

How many writing styles do you have?

Further edit: Maybe this is your tired writing style? How many Trans brothers do you have?

I wasn't talking about you, specifically, but this board in general. Or that's what it seems like to me. Like, I got called "alt-right" for being concerned about the Trump Twitter takedown. If that makes me alt-right, is the same true for Business Insider?

In all fairness, you haven't been so bad about this, at least as far as I remember. No, my problems with you are of a different nature; namely, your insistence that I'm a sockpuppet, based on evidence that's flimsy at best. Yes, textual similarities can be evidence. But as far as I know, you are not a stylometrist (is that the right word?), so I am going to need more than your opinion. Forensic psychology may be an established discipline, but that doesn't mean we should accept the testimony of armchair psychologists on the internet in a court of law. Even if you were, I don't think I can trust you to be unbiased.

And in any case, I don't understand why departmental representation is so important. If the BBC is like most private corporations...

Oh dear...

Listen yankee-doodle, outside the land of Guns, Gawd and Gorporations, government funded broadcasters are a thing! Auntie has never, ever been a "private corporation."

Anyway, whose goalposts are we talking about? Is this a diversity policy for scriptwriters or for all and any arms of the British government funded British Broadcasting Service inclusive of janitorial and help desks?

I know you're going through a difficult time right now, so I'm going to try to be gentle.

Thank you, but you don't have to correct me on the BBC. I know the Beeb isn't a private company, I was merely saying that if it's run like most private companies, it probably has an HR department that is largely female. I never meant to imply the BBC wasn't publicly owned.

And as for why I said you were moving the goalposts, it's because earlier, you said this:

The beeb has a diversity policy? Someone page Damore so he can dredge up a Wikipedia article saying it's a very no good thing!

Seriously? Positive discrimination at the BBC bothers you? Why? Are there not enough old white guys in the British Broadcasting Service for you?


From the bolded text, I assumed you were talking about the Beeb in general, not just scriptwriters. If you weren't trying to say that, I'm sorry for getting you wrong.
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2018, 09:45:56 pm »
Except that this was a campaign by white supremacists so why is it wrong to freak out over it?

Or trolls pretending to be white supremacists. With 4Chan, it's never easy to tell.

But that's beside the point. What I'm saying is that they wanted people to flip out, and that's exactly what happened. Even worse, some of these people knew what the anons were planning, and still took the bait.

If you're pretending to be a white supremacist to "troll," then you're a white supremacist. Some things aren't funny.
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2018, 09:53:29 pm »
Except that this was a campaign by white supremacists so why is it wrong to freak out over it?

Or trolls pretending to be white supremacists. With 4Chan, it's never easy to tell.

But that's beside the point. What I'm saying is that they wanted people to flip out, and that's exactly what happened. Even worse, some of these people knew what the anons were planning, and still took the bait.

If you're pretending to be a white supremacist to "troll," then you're a white supremacist. Some things aren't funny.

Then I suppose Jonathan Swift was a cannibal.
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2018, 10:10:33 pm »
"A Modest Proposal" was clearly ribbing the privileged, racist chan-wankers on the other hand...

And Lana a corporation, government or otherwise, presumably makes policy based on areas of percieved need - which might be one department or it might be the whole thing. That is entirely context dependent. Why is this so hard for you to get your head around it?
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2018, 10:27:36 pm »
"A Modest Proposal" was clearly ribbing the privileged, racist chan-wankers on the other hand...

And Lana a corporation, government or otherwise, presumably makes policy based on areas of percieved need - which might be one department or it might be the whole thing. That is entirely context dependent. Why is this so hard for you to get your head around it?

What difference does that make?

And I understand that corporations make policies based on perceived need. What I don't understand is why that justifies outright racial discrimination. We're not even talking about AA, we're talking about "no crackers need apply."
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2018, 12:05:28 am »
Except that this was a campaign by white supremacists so why is it wrong to freak out over it?

Or trolls pretending to be white supremacists. With 4Chan, it's never easy to tell.

But that's beside the point. What I'm saying is that they wanted people to flip out, and that's exactly what happened. Even worse, some of these people knew what the anons were planning, and still took the bait.

If you're pretending to be a white supremacist to "troll," then you're a white supremacist. Some things aren't funny.

Then I suppose Jonathan Swift was a cannibal.

That isn't how logic works. Cannibalism is fucking hilarious. Racism isn't.

Now, go eat a dick.

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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2018, 01:33:55 am »
That isn't how logic works. Cannibalism is fucking hilarious. Racism isn't.

Now, go eat a dick.

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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2018, 01:44:33 am »
There is a redneck joke to be made here.
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2018, 02:53:31 am »
That isn't how logic works. Cannibalism is fucking hilarious. Racism isn't.

Now, go eat a dick.

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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2018, 03:54:51 am »
The thing is that, unlike "cultural Marxism" which is a made up boogeyman "cryptofascism" is actually a real phenomenon.

There are Neo-Nazis and white supremacists who use internet memes and "just joking man" excuse to spread their message. Folks like Richard Spencer have openly said that they are trying to recruit young men by making a "totally not Neo-Nazies" movement out of the Alt-Right and using things like the "Pepe" meme to do so.

By using those same memes and "just joking when I say we should kill all degenerates lol why so serius?" defense the 4Chan trolls are helping Neo-Nazis. Because at sizeable amount of the people using those memes are real Neo-Nazis and some of the others are lured in because they find a group where they can openly be racist and not be punished for it. (Partially because some of the others think that they are just joking about it and partially because some of them really are racist.)

Meanwhile, Queens cannibalism jokes are not helping a pro-cannibalism agenda BECAUSE NO SUCH MOVEMENT REALLY EXISTS!

So... Though a 4Chan troll may have a different motive for harassing people and sending death and rape threats to minorities (mainly, he just thinks that it is fun) than the Neo-Nazis who do it as well, in the end it does not matter. They bolster the Neo-Nazis by making them seem more numerous and cause real harm by spreading hateful messages and threats.

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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2018, 04:34:53 am »
The thing is that, unlike "cultural Marxism" which is a made up boogeyman "cryptofascism" is actually a real phenomenon.

There are Neo-Nazis and white supremacists who use internet memes and "just joking man" excuse to spread their message. Folks like Richard Spencer have openly said that they are trying to recruit young men by making a "totally not Neo-Nazies" movement out of the Alt-Right and using things like the "Pepe" meme to do so.

By using those same memes and "just joking when I say we should kill all degenerates lol why so serius?" defense the 4Chan trolls are helping Neo-Nazis. Because at sizeable amount of the people using those memes are real Neo-Nazis and some of the others are lured in because they find a group where they can openly be racist and not be punished for it. (Partially because some of the others think that they are just joking about it and partially because some of them really are racist.)

Meanwhile, Queens cannibalism jokes are not helping a pro-cannibalism agenda BECAUSE NO SUCH MOVEMENT REALLY EXISTS!

So... Though a 4Chan troll may have a different motive for harassing people and sending death and rape threats to minorities (mainly, he just thinks that it is fun) than the Neo-Nazis who do it as well, in the end it does not matter. They bolster the Neo-Nazis by making them seem more numerous and cause real harm by spreading hateful messages and threats.

Existentialism for the win! Which reminds me of this famous Sartre quote that made the rounds since Casino Mussolini won the election:



To spew shitbag racism is to be a racist shitbag. To do so "ironically" is no different as it only normalizes racist shitbags, and provides them an easy out when they are confronted.

Meanwhile, Queens cannibalism jokes are not helping a pro-cannibalism agenda BECAUSE NO SUCH MOVEMENT REALLY EXISTS!

Yeah, what this guy said. Don't believe anything you hear about the pro-cannibalism agenda. If you are interested in this agenda though, it may meet on the corner of 32nd and Cherry on the first of the month. The password is "sic semper tyrannus."
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Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2018, 04:39:01 am »
The real atrocity here is that you didn't make a pun. "Sic temper tyrannus" maybe?

"Sic semper delicious?"
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