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Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« on: March 04, 2018, 05:40:53 pm »
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-05/china-npc-moves-xi-jinping-towards-dictatorship/9504680

Given how authoritarian and repressive China was before, I can only imagine how bad things are going to get under Xi Jinping's new autocracy.
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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2018, 07:49:02 pm »
 I'm still confused by this move being that I don't know much about Xi Jingping, or how he actually is for the country of China? Has he been running the country as an authoritarian leader? What makes his leadership so special to get this special privilege over past communist leaders. Why is the world embracing authoritarianism as something to aspire to now?

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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2018, 07:59:58 pm »
I'm still confused by this move being that I don't know much about Xi Jingping, or how he actually is for the country of China? Has he been running the country as an authoritarian leader? What makes his leadership so special to get this special privilege over past communist leaders. Why is the world embracing authoritarianism as something to aspire to now?

Why authoritarianism? Because the status quo is screwing over too many people, and they say, fuck that, we'll try anything else.

Doesn't really explain China, but I wouldn't be surprised if Xi knows about a lot of skeletons in a lot of closets.
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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2018, 08:09:41 pm »
He's had his manifesto accepted as part of the party ideology, although I suspect it is a little euphemestic:

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The thought consists of a 14-point basic policy as follows:[3][4]

Ensuring Communist Party of China leadership over all forms of work in China.
The Communist Party of China should take a people-centric approach for the public interest.
The continuation of "comprehensive deepening of reforms".
Adopting new science-based ideas for "innovative, coordinated, green, open and shared development".
Following "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" with "people as the masters of the country".
Governing China with the rule of law.
"Practise Socialist Core Values", including Marxism, communism and "Socialism with Chinese characteristics".
"Improving people's livelihood and well-being is the primary goal of development".
Coexist well with nature with "energy conservation and environmental protection" policies and "contribute to global ecological safety".
Strengthen national security.
The Communist Party of China should have "absolute leadership over" China's People's Liberation Army.
Promoting the one country, two systems system for Hong Kong and Macau with a future of "complete national reunification"; and to follow the One-China policy and 1992 Consensus for Taiwan.
Establish a common destiny between Chinese people and other people around the world with a "peaceful international environment".
Improve party discipline in the Communist Party of China.
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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2018, 08:10:19 pm »
Yeah, but you'd think dictatorships would've left a sour enough taste in people's mouths to know that they're no good and never were good, especially where it's being embraced by a certain sect of people in the states. There are other more sane leadership's that countries should aspire to.

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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2018, 08:19:44 pm »
Well the Chinese have rejected western democracy. In particular the example of the US at the moment has made them confident in their decision to do so. Besides the change from Oligarchy (which is the chinese system from Deng Xiaping onwards) to Dictatorship probably isn't much of a stretch. The biggest problem for the Chinese will be what happens when Xi eventually goes.

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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2018, 12:42:59 am »
The thought thing kind of reminds me of a villain from my stories, the DRA (Darke Reach Alliance) and their form of authoritarianism and how they govern. This is not good.

The DRA actively outlaw forms of thought the Supreme Dictator, OMNI, disapproves of (though in a somewhat amusing turn, when some fascists led by Not!Richard Spencer move to the DRA, they get executed for "harboring racist thoughts - in the DRA, all men are equally grasped by the sovereign's iron fist").
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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2018, 03:30:04 pm »
And Trump wants to be him.

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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2018, 07:42:14 pm »
Well it's good we have the twenty second amendment, and no super majority to pass an amendment to 22.

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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2018, 07:55:08 pm »
Well it's good we have the twenty second amendment, and no super majority to pass an amendment to 22.

Give the Republicans a few more state houses... (Remember, it was the Republicans who were first bit by the 22nd Amendment--it forced them to run Nixon, rather than Eisenhower, against Kennedy in 1960.)

But anyway, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump just tried to ignore that pesky little provision.
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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2018, 10:52:14 pm »
He can try to ignore it all he wants. It's still against the law.

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Re: Mao 2.0: China's New Dictator
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2018, 11:06:26 pm »
He can try to ignore it all he wants. It's still against the law.

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Whoever attentively considers the different departments of power must perceive, that, in a government in which they are separated from each other, the judiciary, from the nature of its functions, will always be the least dangerous to the political rights of the Constitution; because it will be least in a capacity to annoy or injure them. The Executive not only dispenses the honors, but holds the sword of the community. The legislature not only commands the purse, but prescribes the rules by which the duties and rights of every citizen are to be regulated. The judiciary, on the contrary, has no influence over either the sword or the purse; no direction either of the strength or of the wealth of the society; and can take no active resolution whatever. It may truly be said to have neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments.

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EDIT: I disagree with many things said in the Federalist Papers, but that isn't one of them.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.