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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #135 on: September 21, 2018, 08:15:00 pm »
You mean Russia stopped cutting them checks?

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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #136 on: September 21, 2018, 08:47:09 pm »
You mean Russia stopped cutting them checks?

They're being investigated in NY over exactly that.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #137 on: September 21, 2018, 09:07:19 pm »
I'm surprised they aren't raking in ad revenue from Remington et al thru NRA TV.  You mean to tell me that horribly-prepared knockoffs of other networks' shows, many of whom are tinged with equal amounts paranoia and utter insanity, don't draw ad bucks like flies to shit?
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #138 on: September 21, 2018, 10:16:42 pm »
To some extent they're victims of their own success.

First, let's note that the NRA's positions are out of sync with the positions of NRA members, such as on background checks--NRA members support expanding them, the NRA opposes expansion. So they may be bleeding members over that.

But more importantly, mass shootings are the NRA's bread and butter--they're a lobby group for gun manufacturers, not gun owners, remember. Every time there's a mass shooting, the NRA puts out fearmongering about how the government's going to take your guns, and people get scared and buy more guns, which makes the gun makers richer. But there've been so many mass shootings, and so much inaction (except sometimes in states run by Republicans, where they end up loosening gun restrictions, I guess because they were stopping all those good guys from getting guns), that now people see a mass shooting and don't think that the government is going to take their guns, since the fact pattern is established that the government won't do that. Hence mass shootings no longer make money for the gun manufacturers the way they used to, and hence the NRA doesn't get as much money from said companies.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2018, 11:36:24 pm »
Thoughts and prayers, gentlemen, thoughts and prayers.

Also, the fact Rod Rosenstein needed to come out and so stringently deny the 25th Amendment Allegation probably says something.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #140 on: September 21, 2018, 11:44:49 pm »
Rosenstein's going to be gone very, very soon.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #141 on: September 22, 2018, 12:51:04 am »
...Would Trump dare get rid of him?

That would be tantamount to implicating himself even further and let Mueller do so much more.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #142 on: September 22, 2018, 01:56:35 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZuayQFD51w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZuayQFD51w</a>

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« Reply #143 on: September 22, 2018, 02:16:28 am »
...Would Trump dare get rid of him?

That would be tantamount to implicating himself even further and let Mueller do so much more.

He needs some pretext for getting rid of him, and this provides it.

Meanwhile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTm9eZ1qvM

Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep. Beto O'Rourke debate.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #144 on: September 22, 2018, 03:43:09 am »
The Curator's corner show in NRA TV is worth watching but that's about it.


And even in that one some of the "famous guns" are stuff like "one of the many guns Ted Nugent owned" so it's a bit of a hit and miss.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #145 on: September 23, 2018, 05:42:12 am »
I wouldn't be shocked if they're bleeding support. My dad used to get their newsletter years and years ago, and even back then they got annoying begging for money all the time and making boneheaded decisions on what to push for. I can only imagine it's happening more now because they've clearly been getting worse as time progresses.

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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #146 on: September 23, 2018, 06:51:41 am »
They've had so much money coming in from corporations and Russia that there was no need to care about their members.

They still have the crazies on their side but now they are being investigated for the Russian money and the corporations can't unload all their guns on people because the president isn't a "CRAZY GUN-GRABBER DEMONCRAT" so they can't really use NRA to scare people into stockpiling guns either. Their main sources of income are in jeopardy and they can't really get money from members...
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #147 on: September 28, 2018, 02:37:21 am »
538 put its House forecast up in mid-August; when it went up, IIRC they had the Democrats at 70% to take the House. Now it's over 80%.

The Senate forecast went up just two weeks ago; when it went up they had the Democrats--looking at the worst map in Senate history--at a 30% chance of taking control, and it's been creeping up since, being now at 32%.

I hope they can keep that momentum going into 2020 and hopefully 2022.

EDIT: And these have dropped to around 77% and 29% as of mid-afternoon PDT on October 2.
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Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Reply #148 on: October 02, 2018, 08:24:46 pm »
Best cancel midterm plans for the Democrats then.  We're not taking back anything and in fact the GOP is gonna just steam roll over everything, get a super majority and install the Trump family as puppet rulers of America forever and ever amen.

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« Reply #149 on: October 02, 2018, 09:40:50 pm »
Best cancel midterm plans for the Democrats then.  We're not taking back anything and in fact the GOP is gonna just steam roll over everything, get a super majority and install the Trump family as puppet rulers of America forever and ever amen.

Ironbite-until, we all die in 2030 from a Super flu outbreak.

They're still ridiculously high for a Senate map that's the most tilted against one party in US history, and a House map that's more gerrymandered than at any time in US history. I was just noting that they'd slipped, that's all.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.