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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2018, 07:09:56 pm »
How is this post lunacy?
Your post boils down to two different mobs of thugs killing over scraps of dirt in medieval Europe and which inbred thug clan gets to inherit it.

All of this is supposed to make us:

  • Give a shit
  • Give it legitimacy
  • Subscribe to an archaic religion run by pederasts

Look around at your intended audience, this is FSTDT. If you expect that pile of festering old tumors and bat droppings to turn anybody's head around and make them convert to Roman Catholicism, you are a fucking lunatic!

It wasn’t war between thugs, it was a war between a legitimate house, and an illegitimate house over the throne of England.

The Roman Catholic Church unfortunetely has pederasts in the clergy and those that cover for them, but that is because the Church liberalized when they had the Second Vatican Council which changed the traditions of the Church and they started ordaining liberal pederasts into the clergy. The scandal did not exist before Vatican 2, and in the Midieval times, pederasts priests would be burned at the stake.

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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2018, 07:14:27 pm »
How is this post lunacy?
Your post boils down to two different mobs of thugs killing over scraps of dirt in medieval Europe and which inbred thug clan gets to inherit it.

All of this is supposed to make us:

  • Give a shit
  • Give it legitimacy
  • Subscribe to an archaic religion run by pederasts

Look around at your intended audience, this is FSTDT. If you expect that pile of festering old tumors and bat droppings to turn anybody's head around and make them convert to Roman Catholicism, you are a fucking lunatic!

It wasn’t war between thugs, it was a war between a legitimate house, and an illegitimate house over the throne of England.

The Roman Catholic Church unfortunetely has pederasts in the clergy and those that cover for them, but that is because the Church liberalized when they had the Second Vatican Council which changed the traditions of the Church and they started ordaining liberal pederasts into the clergy. The scandal did not exist before Vatican 2, and in the Midieval times, pederasts priests would be burned at the stake.
Those houses gained "legitimacy" only because they were the most violent bastards left standing after the fall of the Roman Empire and it's the more traditionalist Catholics like Australia's own George Pell who've been covering up for the kiddy diddlers and worse! Vatican 2 was, what 1962? Well reports of child sexual abuse go back to at least the 1940s.

If you are trying to convince us of the legitimacy of unearned, inherited power the RCC is a terrible, terrible example.
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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2018, 08:27:52 pm »
How is this post lunacy?
Your post boils down to two different mobs of thugs killing over scraps of dirt in medieval Europe and which inbred thug clan gets to inherit it.

All of this is supposed to make us:

  • Give a shit
  • Give it legitimacy
  • Subscribe to an archaic religion run by pederasts

Look around at your intended audience, this is FSTDT. If you expect that pile of festering old tumors and bat droppings to turn anybody's head around and make them convert to Roman Catholicism, you are a fucking lunatic!

It wasn’t war between thugs, it was a war between a legitimate house, and an illegitimate house over the throne of England.

The Roman Catholic Church unfortunetely has pederasts in the clergy and those that cover for them, but that is because the Church liberalized when they had the Second Vatican Council which changed the traditions of the Church and they started ordaining liberal pederasts into the clergy. The scandal did not exist before Vatican 2, and in the Midieval times, pederasts priests would be burned at the stake.
Those houses gained "legitimacy" only because they were the most violent bastards left standing after the fall of the Roman Empire and it's the more traditionalist Catholics like Australia's own George Pell who've been covering up for the kiddy diddlers and worse! Vatican 2 was, what 1962? Well reports of child sexual abuse go back to at least the 1940s.

If you are trying to convince us of the legitimacy of unearned, inherited power the RCC is a terrible, terrible example.

They gained legitimacy because they helped form new nations after the fall of Rome.

The issue of pedophile priests goes back to the 1940s when pedophiles began infiltrating the Church, as well as corrupt clergy who were covering up  but it wasn’t until after Vatican 2, that the Popes themselves became involved in covering it up.

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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2018, 08:33:32 pm »
How is this post lunacy?
Your post boils down to two different mobs of thugs killing over scraps of dirt in medieval Europe and which inbred thug clan gets to inherit it.

All of this is supposed to make us:

  • Give a shit
  • Give it legitimacy
  • Subscribe to an archaic religion run by pederasts

Look around at your intended audience, this is FSTDT. If you expect that pile of festering old tumors and bat droppings to turn anybody's head around and make them convert to Roman Catholicism, you are a fucking lunatic!

It wasn’t war between thugs, it was a war between a legitimate house, and an illegitimate house over the throne of England.

The Roman Catholic Church unfortunetely has pederasts in the clergy and those that cover for them, but that is because the Church liberalized when they had the Second Vatican Council which changed the traditions of the Church and they started ordaining liberal pederasts into the clergy. The scandal did not exist before Vatican 2, and in the Midieval times, pederasts priests would be burned at the stake.
Those houses gained "legitimacy" only because they were the most violent bastards left standing after the fall of the Roman Empire and it's the more traditionalist Catholics like Australia's own George Pell who've been covering up for the kiddy diddlers and worse! Vatican 2 was, what 1962? Well reports of child sexual abuse go back to at least the 1940s.

If you are trying to convince us of the legitimacy of unearned, inherited power the RCC is a terrible, terrible example.

They gained legitimacy because they helped form new nations after the fall of Rome.

The issue of pedophile priests goes back to the 1940s when pedophiles began infiltrating the Church, as well as corrupt clergy who were covering up  but it wasn’t until after Vatican 2, that the Popes themselves became involved in covering it up.
They gained "legitimacy" because "might is right," oh please!

The RCC was less open to covering up abuse when it was less transparent and less open to question, PLEASE! Stop.

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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2018, 08:37:09 pm »
How is this post lunacy?
Your post boils down to two different mobs of thugs killing over scraps of dirt in medieval Europe and which inbred thug clan gets to inherit it.

All of this is supposed to make us:

  • Give a shit
  • Give it legitimacy
  • Subscribe to an archaic religion run by pederasts

Look around at your intended audience, this is FSTDT. If you expect that pile of festering old tumors and bat droppings to turn anybody's head around and make them convert to Roman Catholicism, you are a fucking lunatic!

It wasn’t war between thugs, it was a war between a legitimate house, and an illegitimate house over the throne of England.

The Roman Catholic Church unfortunetely has pederasts in the clergy and those that cover for them, but that is because the Church liberalized when they had the Second Vatican Council which changed the traditions of the Church and they started ordaining liberal pederasts into the clergy. The scandal did not exist before Vatican 2, and in the Midieval times, pederasts priests would be burned at the stake.
Those houses gained "legitimacy" only because they were the most violent bastards left standing after the fall of the Roman Empire and it's the more traditionalist Catholics like Australia's own George Pell who've been covering up for the kiddy diddlers and worse! Vatican 2 was, what 1962? Well reports of child sexual abuse go back to at least the 1940s.

If you are trying to convince us of the legitimacy of unearned, inherited power the RCC is a terrible, terrible example.

They gained legitimacy because they helped form new nations after the fall of Rome.

The issue of pedophile priests goes back to the 1940s when pedophiles began infiltrating the Church, as well as corrupt clergy who were covering up  but it wasn’t until after Vatican 2, that the Popes themselves became involved in covering it up.

If legitimacy can be gained, then it follows that it can also be lost. Or do you think it's permanent?
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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2018, 09:07:30 pm »
How is this post lunacy?
Your post boils down to two different mobs of thugs killing over scraps of dirt in medieval Europe and which inbred thug clan gets to inherit it.

All of this is supposed to make us:

  • Give a shit
  • Give it legitimacy
  • Subscribe to an archaic religion run by pederasts

Look around at your intended audience, this is FSTDT. If you expect that pile of festering old tumors and bat droppings to turn anybody's head around and make them convert to Roman Catholicism, you are a fucking lunatic!

It wasn’t war between thugs, it was a war between a legitimate house, and an illegitimate house over the throne of England.

The Roman Catholic Church unfortunetely has pederasts in the clergy and those that cover for them, but that is because the Church liberalized when they had the Second Vatican Council which changed the traditions of the Church and they started ordaining liberal pederasts into the clergy. The scandal did not exist before Vatican 2, and in the Midieval times, pederasts priests would be burned at the stake.
Those houses gained "legitimacy" only because they were the most violent bastards left standing after the fall of the Roman Empire and it's the more traditionalist Catholics like Australia's own George Pell who've been covering up for the kiddy diddlers and worse! Vatican 2 was, what 1962? Well reports of child sexual abuse go back to at least the 1940s.

If you are trying to convince us of the legitimacy of unearned, inherited power the RCC is a terrible, terrible example.

They gained legitimacy because they helped form new nations after the fall of Rome.

The issue of pedophile priests goes back to the 1940s when pedophiles began infiltrating the Church, as well as corrupt clergy who were covering up  but it wasn’t until after Vatican 2, that the Popes themselves became involved in covering it up.
They gained "legitimacy" because "might is right," oh please!

The RCC was less open to covering up abuse when it was less transparent and less open to question, PLEASE! Stop.

1. Well legitimacy is gained once tribes get united into a Kingdom like what happened with the Franks.

2. There is no evidence that the issue happened before the 1940s which the records of the issues date back to. It wasn’t until 1962 when the Congregation of the Servants of the Paraclete brought the issue to the Vatican which by then fallen under corruption because that was the year that Vatican 2 began.

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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2018, 09:24:12 pm »
Is ISIS legitmate because it's a coalition of Theocrats and Saddam-era disgruntled regime lackeys cobbled together into a makeshift government? Nah.

The Catholic Church was literally above reproach for most of it's history, anybody accusing it's functionaries of wrongdoing risked very real reprucussions-particularly in your beloved Middle Ages. And I'll.refer you to the Pentinential Books, specifically the Pentinetiale Bede which details, among other things, accusations of sexual relations between priests and children. That was in the 8th Century.
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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2018, 08:56:59 am »
Is ISIS legitmate because it's a coalition of Theocrats and Saddam-era disgruntled regime lackeys cobbled together into a makeshift government? Nah.

The Catholic Church was literally above reproach for most of it's history, anybody accusing it's functionaries of wrongdoing risked very real reprucussions-particularly in your beloved Middle Ages. And I'll.refer you to the Pentinential Books, specifically the Pentinetiale Bede which details, among other things, accusations of sexual relations between priests and children. That was in the 8th Century.

But ISIS seized power from the legitimate government of Iraq. The Kingdoms of Europe formed from uniting tribes.

And back in the 8th century, those crimes were punished much more harshly. This is what it says on the site.

“The earliest recorded church legislation is from the council of Elvira (Spain, 306 AD).  Half of the canons passed dealt with sexual behavior of one kind or another and included penalties assessed for clerics who committed adultery or fornication.  Though it did not make specific mention of homosexual activities by the clergy, this early Council reflected the church’s official attitude toward same-sex relationships: men who had sex with young boys were deprived of communion even on their deathbed.”

“The Council of Elvira was not the only source of early legislative attempts to curb the sexual misdeeds of the clergy.  Other gatherings of bishops throughout the Christian world, which encompassed what are now Western Europe, Northern Africa, the Middle East and the British Isles, passed laws attempting to stamp out clerical concubinage, clerical fornication and homosexual activity.”

“Given the poor state of communications at the time it is remarkable that the various councils and synods produced disciplinary legislation similar in tone.”

“The Penitential of Bede (England, 8th century) advises that clerics who commit sodomy with young boys be given increasingly severe penances commensurate with their rank, the higher ranking (bishops) receiving harsher penalties.”

“The most authoritative source is the Decree of Gratian already mentioned.  Though mandatory celibacy had been decreed by the 2nd Lateran Council in 1139, this law was received with neither universal acceptance nor obedience.  Medieval scholars attest that clerical concubinage was commonplace.  Adultery, casual sex with unmarried women and homosexual relationships were rampant.  Gratian devoted entire sections to disciplinary legislation which attempted to curb all of these vices.  He demanded that the punishment for sexual transgressions be more severe for clerics than for lay men.  His treatment of same-sex activities was less extensive than that of other celibacy violations, yet his attitude is evident because he cited the ancient Roman law opinion that stuprum pueri, the sexual violation of young boys, be punished by death.”

“Many monasteries passed local regulations in attempts to curb the rampant abuses.  In his Rule, Benedict commanded that no two monks were to sleep in the same bed.  Night lights were to be kept burning and the monks were to sleep clothed.  Many monasteries enacted their own rules forbidding various kinds of sexual behavior and added punishments that were often more severe than those meted out to the secular clerics.”



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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2018, 09:05:28 am »
Your copy paste abilities are impressive and only demonstrate that priests were diddling kiddies centuries before Vatican 2.

And one coalition of warlords is much like any other, for the poor blighters that live under them.

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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2018, 12:59:58 pm »
Your copy paste abilities are impressive and only demonstrate that priests were diddling kiddies centuries before Vatican 2.

And one coalition of warlords is much like any other, for the poor blighters that live under them.

It also shows that they were dealt with more harshly before Vatican 2. Any large institution will have some cases of sexual predators. What matters more is the policies on how to minimize it and punish the predators.

And the governments of Europe were not coalitions of warlords, they were nations with the King, a bureaucracy, and the rule of law. All nations were founded when different groups United. There was the rule of law and it only sucked badly for the people if the monarch was an exceptional tyrant, and in those cases, those monarchs were overthrown.

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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2018, 04:06:17 pm »
Still not aware how this is not about fucking your second cousin.

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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2018, 06:39:23 pm »
Your copy paste abilities are impressive and only demonstrate that priests were diddling kiddies centuries before Vatican 2.

And one coalition of warlords is much like any other, for the poor blighters that live under them.

It also shows that they were dealt with more harshly before Vatican 2. Any large institution will have some cases of sexual predators. What matters more is the policies on how to minimize it and punish the predators.

And the governments of Europe were not coalitions of warlords, they were nations with the King, a bureaucracy, and the rule of law. All nations were founded when different groups United. There was the rule of law and it only sucked badly for the people if the monarch was an exceptional tyrant, and in those cases, those monarchs were overthrown.
A king is a bloody warlord, that's what kings are. That's why your ancestors fought to kick one out because they didn't want to be answerable to an unelected, unrepresentative fucking warlord.

And if you were sufficiently powerful and influential like Pope Boniface VIII, you could get away with all the kiddy diddling, raping and crimes against humanity you liked and only be tried after your death, if at all!
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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2018, 07:16:45 pm »
Your copy paste abilities are impressive and only demonstrate that priests were diddling kiddies centuries before Vatican 2.

And one coalition of warlords is much like any other, for the poor blighters that live under them.

It also shows that they were dealt with more harshly before Vatican 2. Any large institution will have some cases of sexual predators. What matters more is the policies on how to minimize it and punish the predators.

And the governments of Europe were not coalitions of warlords, they were nations with the King, a bureaucracy, and the rule of law. All nations were founded when different groups United. There was the rule of law and it only sucked badly for the people if the monarch was an exceptional tyrant, and in those cases, those monarchs were overthrown.
A king is a bloody warlord, that's what kings are. That's why your ancestors fought to kick one out because they didn't want to be answerable to an unelected, unrepresentative fucking warlord.

And if you were sufficiently powerful and influential like Pope Boniface VIII, you could get away with all the kiddy diddling, raping and crimes against humanity you liked and only be tried after your death, if at all!

That's not entirely true. A king is only a warlord if he has actual power. If not, then he's just a figurehead.

And Boniface VIII wasn't the only horrible pope. John XII was a rapist, and Alexander VI had people killed on trumped-up charges so he could get their wealth.
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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2018, 07:34:58 pm »
Your copy paste abilities are impressive and only demonstrate that priests were diddling kiddies centuries before Vatican 2.

And one coalition of warlords is much like any other, for the poor blighters that live under them.

It also shows that they were dealt with more harshly before Vatican 2. Any large institution will have some cases of sexual predators. What matters more is the policies on how to minimize it and punish the predators.

And the governments of Europe were not coalitions of warlords, they were nations with the King, a bureaucracy, and the rule of law. All nations were founded when different groups United. There was the rule of law and it only sucked badly for the people if the monarch was an exceptional tyrant, and in those cases, those monarchs were overthrown.
A king is a bloody warlord, that's what kings are. That's why your ancestors fought to kick one out because they didn't want to be answerable to an unelected, unrepresentative fucking warlord.

And if you were sufficiently powerful and influential like Pope Boniface VIII, you could get away with all the kiddy diddling, raping and crimes against humanity you liked and only be tried after your death, if at all!

That's not entirely true. A king is only a warlord if he has actual power. If not, then he's just a figurehead.

And Boniface VIII wasn't the only horrible pope. John XII was a rapist, and Alexander VI had people killed on trumped-up charges so he could get their wealth.

And Karol Wojtyla ignored kiddy diddling, Josef Ratzinger covered it up, and Jorge Bergoglio said that victims were slandering their rapist.
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Re: The most important post on this thread!
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2018, 07:41:41 pm »
Sure modern monarchs like those in modern Europe are figureheads but in Saudi Arabia and Thailand they aren't. The original kings, the ones Jacob likes were defined by the fact that they were the lords with the greatest combination of strategic alliances and brute force which is the world he wants to return to!