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Offline Jacob Harrison

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2018, 08:39:02 am »
Jacob are you ignoring my direct question you little toad sniffer?

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I am not referring to genetic lineage, I am referring to succession.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2018, 09:45:22 am »
Oh you little toad sniffer.  How does a bunch of elected officials actually prove an organization was around back then?  It doesn't.  You've got no proof.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2018, 09:49:05 am »
Oh you little toad sniffer.  How does a bunch of elected officials actually prove an organization was around back then?  It doesn't.  You've got no proof.

Ironbite-go back to fucking your second cousin.

Because the list of Popes goes back to the time of Jesus.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2018, 09:50:11 am »
Christianity is based on the idea that Jesus was God.

However Jesus did not think he was God

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwuLi_0qxw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwuLi_0qxw</a>

Therefore either christianity is wrong, or Jesus was.

Um Mathew, Mark, and Luke keep referring to Jesus as the Son of God.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2018, 10:30:14 am »
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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2018, 11:29:06 am »
Oh you little toad sniffer.  How does a bunch of elected officials actually prove an organization was around back then?  It doesn't.  You've got no proof.

Ironbite-go back to fucking your second cousin.

Because the list of Popes goes back to the time of Jesus.
And I trust the early Catholic church to tell the truth as much as I do the current mob of dirty, dodgy old creeps with the same sullied brand name!

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2018, 01:40:14 pm »
Oh you little toad sniffer.  How does a bunch of elected officials actually prove an organization was around back then?  It doesn't.  You've got no proof.

Ironbite-go back to fucking your second cousin.

Because the list of Popes goes back to the time of Jesus.
And I trust the early Catholic church to tell the truth as much as I do the current mob of dirty, dodgy old creeps with the same sullied brand name!

It’s not the Catholic Church I am citing. I am citing Wikipedia which provides the list.

Besides, if Peter was not the first Pope, then I challenge you to name who was and explain how the Catholic Church came into existence.
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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2018, 02:08:41 pm »
You're "citing" Wikiledia? Well that was a slow burn Mr Borat, that is nearly as funny as "oink!"

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2018, 06:08:44 pm »
He's citing Wikipedia.  Oh well guys I'm convinced.

Ironbite-not like anyone and their goldfish can edit Wikipedia.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2018, 07:23:07 pm »
He's citing Wikipedia.  Oh well guys I'm convinced.

Ironbite-not like anyone and their goldfish can edit Wikipedia.

Bad edits can get corrected.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2018, 07:58:06 pm »
As I said before, if Peter was not the first Pope, then I challenge you to name who was and how the papacy came into existence

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2018, 08:05:49 pm »
He's citing Wikipedia.  Oh well guys I'm convinced.

Ironbite-not like anyone and their goldfish can edit Wikipedia.

Bad edits can get corrected.
And anything contra the Catholic party line sure as shit is gonna get "corrected" on any article about the early Catholic church, you bet.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2018, 01:08:06 am »
Christianity is based on the idea that Jesus was God.

However Jesus did not think he was God

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwuLi_0qxw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwuLi_0qxw</a>

Therefore either christianity is wrong, or Jesus was.

Um Mathew, Mark, and Luke keep referring to Jesus as the Son of God.

So what?  I'm my dad's son, that doesn't mean I'm my dad.

The story here is actually very interesting.  See early Christians were actual very diverse in their interpretations of who Jesus was.  From reconstructing the Gospels and letters of Paul in their original form along with the picture gained from other sources (mostly Christians writing stuff about how other Christians were heretics) Historians have learned that the first Christians like St Paul and the author of Mark were Jews who believed that Jesus was the messiah (as in a regular human God choose for an important task) who was God's adopted son.  Later in Matthew and Luke Jesus becomes not just the adopted son of God but his biological son like Heracles is to Zeus.  It isn't until even later in John that Jesus is believed to be God himself.

Since the idea that Jesus was God was a later development in Christianity, we can assume that the original beliefs were closest the Jesus's own.  So yeah Jesus would have thought of himself as the Jewish messiah, a new King David or Moses, but the idea that he was God he would have seen as blasphemous.

(For my sources, check out Dr Bart Ehrman's books, which this post is a highly oversimplified version of.)

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2018, 08:24:37 am »
The authors of the Gospels wrote about different specific parts of Jesus’s life and different specific information about Jesus’s life. It was a division of tasks.

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Re: More proof that Catholicism is true
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2018, 09:05:29 am »
The authors of the Gospels wrote about different specific parts of Jesus’s life and different specific information about Jesus’s life. It was a division of tasks.
You have no idea how many years intervened between the authorship of the various books in the NT, do you?