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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-predicted-ingersoll-lockwood-adventures-barron-melania-last-644284

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0uedwAxbSE&app=desktop

Hopefully this prophecy come true will convert you guys to Christianity in these end days before the second coming of Christ.

Perhaps Trumps presidency is somehow connected with my plans to have the true English monarch come to the throne liberate Constantinople and the Holy Land which would involve war with the Antichrist Muslim countries who would try to gain back Palestine. Hallelujah!
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What.

The.

Ever.

Loving.

Fuck.
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What.

The.

Ever.

Loving.

Fuck.

I know it is shocking. How accurate those 1800s novels were and The Bible prophecy.
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Have you seen Trump's dress sense? He looks like he slept in his suit.

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Lavish old fashioned clothing

Have you seen Trump's dress sense? He looks like he slept in his suit.

It was written so that people back then would understand. But how do you explain other accurate things such as the fact that the protagonist  is named Baron Trump, and the hotel on 5th Avenue where Trump tower is now?
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Go back to fucking your second cousin in her jeans.

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Lavish old fashioned clothing

Have you seen Trump's dress sense? He looks like he slept in his suit.

It was written so that people back then would understand. But how do you explain other accurate things such as the fact that the protagonist  is named Baron Trump, and the hotel on 5th Avenue where Trump tower is now?

Take it away Snopes!

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Finally, the book mentions”The Fifth Avenue Hotel,” meaning that it shares a street with Trump Tower. Since Fifth Avenue is, a well-known part of New York that has been the site for several high-end restaurants, shops and hotels since the late 1800s (the Waldorf–Astoria was constructed on Fifth Avenue in 1893), this detail seems to be more a reflection of the time it was written, and less a prescient note of where Trump Tower would eventually be constructed.

Although these books contain some seemingly bizarre coincidences, they are not evidence that Donald Trump has access to a time machine. Time travel conspiracy theories such as this one pick and choose material that supports their conclusions while ignoring everything else. For instance, these books also contain giant turtles, alternate dimensions, a battle with a big white crane, a dog named Bulgar, and a little smiling man frozen in time. Since these aspects have no clear connection to the Trumps, they are omitted from the conspiracy theory.

Even if you could prove extra dimensions, time travelling Republicans and produce a dog called Bulgar none of this makes this a specifically biblical premonition. It'd only prove some maniac let Donald Trump near a time machine!

Which it hasn't proven, don't get too excited. Like I said in the last post you ran away from, you aren't trying to convince you who'd believe anything that fit your mad little worldview, you're trying to convince us. Know your audience, try to convince them.

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The fact that there was a character called Trump and the sequel was a book about the last President shows that it was a prophecy. Since time travel will probably not be invented for a long time, it is more likely that the author had a revelation from God. And did you watch the YouTube video that shows that Trump was in bible prophecy?
Gifts such as modern science, free-market economics, art, music, and the idea of human rights come from the Catholic Church, explains Woods. No institution has done more to shape Western civilization than the two-thousand-year-old Catholic Church

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The fact that there was a character called Trump and the sequel was a book about the last President shows that it was a prophecy. Since time travel will probably not be invented for a long time, it is more likely that the author had a revelation from God. And did you watch the YouTube video that shows that Trump was in bible prophecy?

There's no evidence that God exists, it's why it's called a "faith" and not "data gleaned from the evidence."

There's no evidence that time travel is possible, there are a few hypothetical ways it may be done all of which rely on negative mass and stupendous amounts of matter and energy and then there's getting around the whole causality thing.

There is evidence that coincidences do occur, sure it's an improbable coincidence but we can rule out time travel and revelations from God as there is no evidence that either of those things are real.

Take it away Sherlock.

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It is an old maxim of mine that when you have excluded the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Improbable coincidences are improbable but, as far as we know, time travel and God aren't possible because nobody has shown them to be possible yet.

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The Trump Presidency is proof that time travel in impossible, or at least will never be invented by humans, because if it was possible then Time Travelers would have come back in time to stop him by now.

The Trump Presidency also proves that the Christian God does not exist because he is all powerful and all loving.  But a loving God would never allow Trump to become president, and an all powerful god could easily prevent it so the fact that Trump is president means God does not exist.

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The Trump Presidency is proof that time travel in impossible, or at least will never be invented by humans, because if it was possible then Time Travelers would have come back in time to stop him by now.

The Trump Presidency also proves that the Christian God does not exist because he is all powerful and all loving.  But a loving God would never allow Trump to become president, and an all powerful god could easily prevent it so the fact that Trump is president means God does not exist.

God supports Trump’s presidency because of Trumps pro Christian policies. Unfortunetely Trump is still going to hell because he is divorced and remarried.

And if you travel back in time, you actually causes parallel universes to be created because changing something in history will create a timeline where the time traveler does not go back in time to change history reverting to the previous timeline which creates two simultaneous realities. So there probably are parallel universes where Trump was stopped. I pity the Americans from those universes who have to suffer under crooked Hillary’s presidency.
Gifts such as modern science, free-market economics, art, music, and the idea of human rights come from the Catholic Church, explains Woods. No institution has done more to shape Western civilization than the two-thousand-year-old Catholic Church

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You mean those pro-Christian policies that turn back (largely Catholic) people from Latin America? You mean those pro-Christian policies that want to discriminate against immigrants when the Bible explicitly commands you to treat the sojourner in your land as if he were of your own people?

The Republican Party has been, for quite some time, the party of Christian theocracy, in direct contradiction to the very first guarantee of the First Amendment to the US Constitution (freedom from religion). That can fuck back off to the intellectual shithole it crawled out of, and your theocracy-loving, democracy-hating ass can go there with it.
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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You mean those pro-Christian policies that turn back (largely Catholic) people from Latin America? You mean those pro-Christian policies that want to discriminate against immigrants when the Bible explicitly commands you to treat the sojourner in your land as if he were of your own people?

The Republican Party has been, for quite some time, the party of Christian theocracy, in direct contradiction to the very first guarantee of the First Amendment to the US Constitution (freedom from religion). That can fuck back off to the intellectual shithole it crawled out of, and your theocracy-loving, democracy-hating ass can go there with it.

Well to become part of Israel, in the Old Testament, the immigrants had to assimilate by converting. Similarly Immigrants to the US must assimilate into American culture and they must come here legally. Ancient Israel had immigration laws and so does the United States. And also there are already a bunch of legal American’s of Hispanic Catholic descent from Puerto Rico and also due to the US gaining Florida, and territories from Mexico in the Mexican American War.

The First Amendment does guarantee freedom of religion, but it does not say that the government cannot promote Christianity. It does prevents any particular sect of Christianity from being established as a state religion, but that is different from the myth of separation of Church and state. In fact at the time the First Amendment was written, the states had anti blasphemy laws on their charters.
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See Leviticus 19 and Deuteronomy 10 regarding the injunction to treat sojourners as your own.

The First Amendment first guarantees freedom from religion, and then, secondarily, freedom of religion. (It would have been easy to write it the other way around, but it isn't written that way.) It absolutely means the government cannot promote Christianity, or any sect thereof, or any other religion, or religion generally (or irreligion). Furthermore, one of the US's oldest treaties, which was ratified unanimously by the Senate (23-0, 9 not voting, so even over the required two-thirds if that had to be an absolute matter) includes in it a clause explicitly stating that the US is not a Christian nation. Many of the people who wrote that document were from Virginia, which itself was actually aggressively secular, and, yes, it was intended to erect a wall of separation between church and state so that no religion could use the government to oppress other religions.

The US Supreme Court has indeed held that Jefferson's writings (in particular, his letter to the Danbury Baptists, who were being persecuted in Connecticut as they were not Congregationalists) "may be accepted as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the [First] Amendment." (Reynolds v. U.S., 1879.) However, at the time those amendments were understood only to apply to acts of Congress, not the states, and it would not be until well after the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment (since the Privileges and Immunities Clause, which should have immediately applied all those provisions to the states, was instead ignored in the Slaughter-House Cases) that such state laws, including anti-blasphemy laws, were struck down.
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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See Leviticus 19 and Deuteronomy 10 regarding the injunction to treat sojourners as your own.

The First Amendment first guarantees freedom from religion, and then, secondarily, freedom of religion. (It would have been easy to write it the other way around, but it isn't written that way.) It absolutely means the government cannot promote Christianity, or any sect thereof, or any other religion, or religion generally (or irreligion). Furthermore, one of the US's oldest treaties, which was ratified unanimously by the Senate (23-0, 9 not voting, so even over the required two-thirds if that had to be an absolute matter) includes in it a clause explicitly stating that the US is not a Christian nation. Many of the people who wrote that document were from Virginia, which itself was actually aggressively secular, and, yes, it was intended to erect a wall of separation between church and state so that no religion could use the government to oppress other religions.

The US Supreme Court has indeed held that Jefferson's writings (in particular, his letter to the Danbury Baptists, who were being persecuted in Connecticut as they were not Congregationalists) "may be accepted as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the [First] Amendment." (Reynolds v. U.S., 1879.) However, at the time those amendments were understood only to apply to acts of Congress, not the states, and it would not be until well after the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment (since the Privileges and Immunities Clause, which should have immediately applied all those provisions to the states, was instead ignored in the Slaughter-House Cases) that such state laws, including anti-blasphemy laws, were struck down.

[10]“Neither shalt thou gather the bunches and grapes that fall down in thy vineyard, but shalt leave them to the poor and the strangers to take. I am the Lord your God.” Dhouy-Rheims Latin Vulgate Translation

“He doth judgment to the fatherless and the widow, loveth the stranger, and giveth him food and raiment. [19] And do you therefore love strangers, because you also were strangers in the land of Egypt. [20]”

Those verses do say to love strangers and give food and clothing to them, but it does not have anything to do with immigration policy. While God commanded the Isrealites to treat strangers well, they were still considered foreigners, and God did not command the Israelites to have the strangers become citizens of Israel. Plus there wasn’t strict border enforcement back then, so it wasn’t illegal for wandering strangers to wander into Israel, so the strangers did not break any laws.

As I said freedom of and from religion does not mean that the government cannot promote Christianity. It just means that the government cannot have an establishment of any particular sect over another or oppress other religions. And while the treaty of Tripoli says that the government is not founded on a religion that does not mean that the US is not a Christian nation because at the time the vast majority of Americans were Christian.
Gifts such as modern science, free-market economics, art, music, and the idea of human rights come from the Catholic Church, explains Woods. No institution has done more to shape Western civilization than the two-thousand-year-old Catholic Church