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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2018, 11:37:26 am »
Well in the context of the time, slavery was common back then and was practiced under the Romans too. And as I said, converting legitimizes any previous illegitimacy as the Church was the successor to the Roman Empire.
See this is where it gets baffling, Roman empire-stabs, scourges and impales Christ to wood, imprisons and tortures his followers turning some of them into live cat food. Constantine rocks up and suddenly it's all sweet and all is forgiven, how the fuck does that work?

The Roman Empire had both good Emperors who left Christians alone, and bad Emperor’s who persecuted them, but Constantine made the Empire a Holy Christian Empire.

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2018, 06:22:19 pm »
Well in the context of the time, slavery was common back then and was practiced under the Romans too. And as I said, converting legitimizes any previous illegitimacy as the Church was the successor to the Roman Empire.
So, enslaving and conquering Christians is fine (even for the sake of human sacrifice), except when Muslims do it. Furthermore, the Church is not the successor to the Roman Empire, it's a remnant of it. It was the religious branch of the Western Roman government, and nowadays is all that's left of it. Furthermore, if the approval of the Church legitimises any ruler, then not only was William of Normandy's claim the gold standard of legitimacy, but every usurper up to King Henry VIII was just as legit. Or does Church approval only legitimise when it's a former pagan conqueror?

I have to say, for a Christian supremacist, you seem to grant a lot of exclusive privileges to non-Christians.

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2018, 08:58:49 pm »
Well in the context of the time, slavery was common back then and was practiced under the Romans too. And as I said, converting legitimizes any previous illegitimacy as the Church was the successor to the Roman Empire.
So, enslaving and conquering Christians is fine (even for the sake of human sacrifice), except when Muslims do it. Furthermore, the Church is not the successor to the Roman Empire, it's a remnant of it. It was the religious branch of the Western Roman government, and nowadays is all that's left of it. Furthermore, if the approval of the Church legitimises any ruler, then not only was William of Normandy's claim the gold standard of legitimacy, but every usurper up to King Henry VIII was just as legit. Or does Church approval only legitimise when it's a former pagan conqueror?

I have to say, for a Christian supremacist, you seem to grant a lot of exclusive privileges to non-Christians.

The pagan conquerors still for the most part allowed Christians religious freedom and Christianity still flourished. Being a remnant of the Roman Empire made the Church the successor. And Church approval legitimizes mostly former pagan conquers because since they are legitimized, legitimacy is then based on who their legitimate successors are..
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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2018, 09:19:40 pm »
The pagan conquerors still for the most part allowed Christians religious freedom and Christianity still flourished. Being a remnant of the Roman Empire made the Church the successor. And Church approval legitimizes mostly former pagan conquers because since they are legitimized, legitimacy is then based on who their legitimate successors are..
Well then, if the approval of the church trumps lineage, then every king up to Henry VIII has been legitimate, as their coronations were presided over and therefore obviously approved by the church. If church approval is good enough to legitimise pagans, then surely it's more than enough to legitimise actual Catholics, right?

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2018, 01:38:03 am »
If you want to support the remnant of the Roman empire's religion then you should be Orthodox Christian. That's just a fact.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2018, 01:51:15 am »
They're probably a little too sigil spammy with their nicely made icons for Jakey's tastes. ...Too festive for his type.
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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2018, 05:50:20 am »
If you want to support the remnant of the Roman empire's religion then you should be Orthodox Christian. That's just a fact.
I thought he was farting around with Orthodox for a bit, was that religion number five...twelve...forget now. Doesn't matter.

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2018, 09:06:07 am »
The pagan conquerors still for the most part allowed Christians religious freedom and Christianity still flourished. Being a remnant of the Roman Empire made the Church the successor. And Church approval legitimizes mostly former pagan conquers because since they are legitimized, legitimacy is then based on who their legitimate successors are..
Well then, if the approval of the church trumps lineage, then every king up to Henry VIII has been legitimate, as their coronations were presided over and therefore obviously approved by the church. If church approval is good enough to legitimise pagans, then surely it's more than enough to legitimise actual Catholics, right?

I never said tha approval of the Church trumps lineage. I said that it legitimizes pagans and that further legitimacy comes from the lineage of the legitimized pagans.

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2018, 09:07:37 am »
If you want to support the remnant of the Roman empire's religion then you should be Orthodox Christian. That's just a fact.

The Orthodox Church is the remnant of the Eastern Roman Empire, while the Catholic Church is the remnant of the Western Roman Empire. The Roman Empire split into two soon before the Western Roman Empire fell.

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2018, 04:02:14 pm »
I suspect everyone here already knows that O great and learned one!

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2018, 04:29:46 pm »
And once again, Jakey-boy proves his sheer ignorance of one of the most basic tenets of political theory.
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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2018, 08:24:26 pm »
The pagan conquerors still for the most part allowed Christians religious freedom and Christianity still flourished. Being a remnant of the Roman Empire made the Church the successor. And Church approval legitimizes mostly former pagan conquers because since they are legitimized, legitimacy is then based on who their legitimate successors are..
Well then, if the approval of the church trumps lineage, then every king up to Henry VIII has been legitimate, as their coronations were presided over and therefore obviously approved by the church. If church approval is good enough to legitimise pagans, then surely it's more than enough to legitimise actual Catholics, right?

I never said tha approval of the Church trumps lineage. I said that it legitimizes pagans and that further legitimacy comes from the lineage of the legitimized pagans.
But it does Trump lineage because by your own admission it means that the current, formerly pagan rulers and not the descendants of the previous government are the "true rulers".

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2018, 09:33:45 pm »
I still want to know what getting merged by the Wizard means and why he keeps doing it? Is it meant to be convincing? Or is it a euphemism for masturbating in front of a mirror?

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2018, 09:44:43 pm »
It's probably an idea he stole from a Harry Potter fanfiction.

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Re: The most important announcement on this thread.
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2018, 10:13:46 pm »
I think it might mean "a wizard combined me and alternate me".

So Jakob is literally hundreds of equally insane copies of himself floating around in one body. At least as far as he's convinced.
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