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Offline Jacob Harrison

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More proof that Christianity is true.
« on: October 29, 2018, 11:49:10 am »
Christianity can be proven true using common sense. And that is when analyzing the motives of the early Christians.

Jews wanted a messiah to restore the Kingdom of Israel. Jesus did not do that. So if he was not the messiah, what would be the motive of the Christian Jews to make up a religion where the messiah did not do that? That common sense argument proves that Jesus is the messiah.

Another thing that proves that Christianity is true is the doctrine of hell. While previous religions believed in a hell for the wicked to be punished in the afterlife, Christianity is the first religion that has people who don't believe in it's deity go to hell. Islam borrowed that concept from Christianity. If Christianity is not true, why would the early Christians make up a religion where non believers go to hell. It would not make the religion seem appealing, and their goal was to get converts. This is another proof that Christianity is true and that the early Christians learned about hell from Jesus.

Another thing that proves that Christianity is true is that it forbids sex outside of marriage. People are naturally horny, so what would be the motive to make up a religion that represses sex. That is another proof that Christianity is true.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 03:32:23 pm »
Christianity can be proven true using common sense. And that is when analyzing the motives of the early Christians.

Jews wanted a messiah to restore the Kingdom of Israel. Jesus did not do that. So if he was not the messiah, what would be the motive of the Christian Jews to make up a religion where the messiah did not do that? That common sense argument proves that Jesus is the messiah.

No, it shows that he convinced some Jewish people he was the Messiah. Plenty of others did that.

Another thing that proves that Christianity is true is the doctrine of hell. While previous religions believed in a hell for the wicked to be punished in the afterlife, Christianity is the first religion that has people who don't believe in it's deity go to hell. Islam borrowed that concept from Christianity. If Christianity is not true, why would the early Christians make up a religion where non believers go to hell. It would not make the religion seem appealing, and their goal was to get converts. This is another proof that Christianity is true and that the early Christians learned about hell from Jesus.

A belief in something doesn't make it true. Religions claim all sorts of weird crap.

Another thing that proves that Christianity is true is that it forbids sex outside of marriage. People are naturally horny, so what would be the motive to make up a religion that represses sex. That is another proof that Christianity is true.

Religions repress natural urges from dietary restrictions to fasting to, of course, matters pertaining to sex. This just "proves" religion causes rational people to do irrational things.


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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 05:10:24 pm »
Christianity can be proven true using common sense. And that is when analyzing the motives of the early Christians.

Jews wanted a messiah to restore the Kingdom of Israel. Jesus did not do that. So if he was not the messiah, what would be the motive of the Christian Jews to make up a religion where the messiah did not do that? That common sense argument proves that Jesus is the messiah.

No, it shows that he convinced some Jewish people he was the Messiah. Plenty of others did that.

Another thing that proves that Christianity is true is the doctrine of hell. While previous religions believed in a hell for the wicked to be punished in the afterlife, Christianity is the first religion that has people who don't believe in it's deity go to hell. Islam borrowed that concept from Christianity. If Christianity is not true, why would the early Christians make up a religion where non believers go to hell. It would not make the religion seem appealing, and their goal was to get converts. This is another proof that Christianity is true and that the early Christians learned about hell from Jesus.

A belief in something doesn't make it true. Religions claim all sorts of weird crap.

Another thing that proves that Christianity is true is that it forbids sex outside of marriage. People are naturally horny, so what would be the motive to make up a religion that represses sex. That is another proof that Christianity is true.

Religions repress natural urges from dietary restrictions to fasting to, of course, matters pertaining to sex. This just "proves" religion causes rational people to do irrational things.

1. But when those messiah claimants died, the Jews stopped believing them to be messiahs. What would be the motive to make up a story of a dead man being a messiah?

2. But it does not make sense for people to make up something that would make their religion unappealing, if their goal was to gain converts. Why would the early Christians make up that non believers go to hell, if their goal was to get converts.

3. Fair point.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 06:07:29 pm »
Hell is a fear tactic, do what we say or you'll suffer unimaginable torment for the rest of eternity... but if you do what we say, you'll get rewarded forever.

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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 10:22:30 pm »
1. "The Jews"-as in all of them didn't all believe Jesus was the messiah either, hence Judaism. Some did, most didn't. All those other messiahs had Jewish fanclubs too.

2. Who cares? Still a belief, still proves diddly.