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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2018, 03:37:25 pm »
1. God gives people free will to believe in him, so he will only prove himself if you agree to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord ad Savior and turn your life from sin.
He seemed rather chatty in all of those bible stories. Strange how only now, he can't talk because free will.
2. It is a net gain because Islam is a religion of terrorism and misogyny.
And Christianity, Catholicism in particular, is the religion on kiddie diddlers, pearl clutchers and repressed jeans fetishists.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2018, 03:54:13 pm »
1. God gives people free will to believe in him, so he will only prove himself if you agree to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord ad Savior and turn your life from sin.
He seemed rather chatty in all of those bible stories. Strange how only now, he can't talk because free will.
2. It is a net gain because Islam is a religion of terrorism and misogyny.
And Christianity, Catholicism in particular, is the religion on kiddie diddlers, pearl clutchers and repressed jeans fetishists.

1. He talked mostly to believers. Christ talked to non believers but they had free will to believe that he’s the messiah. However since non Christians today knows that Jesus Christ is who Christians believe to be the messiah and son of God, him talking now would automatically cause non believers to believe.

2. There are Muslim kiddie diddlers too. In fact their religion itself condones it since Muhammad was one. While there has been a scandal in the Catholic Church, those priests that do that violate Christian doctrine. Pearl clutchers and repressed jeans fetishists are not really issues while Islam has terrorism, wife beating, and forcing women to cover their heads.
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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2018, 04:48:23 pm »
Fuck your God.

On Judgement Day, God will remember you posted that.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2018, 05:51:23 pm »
You're seriously trying to claim that Christianity (which, really, should be "Paulism" given how much doctrine comes from his letters, whether genuine or just attributed to him) isn't misogynistic at its core?

Need I remind you that 1 Timothy 2:12 is in your book?
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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 05:56:45 pm »
You're seriously trying to claim that Christianity (which, really, should be "Paulism" given how much doctrine comes from his letters, whether genuine or just attributed to him) isn't misogynistic at its core?

Need I remind you that 1 Timothy 2:12 is in your book?

1 Timothy 2:12 is only referring to women's role in Churches. It is why, only men can be in the clergy. Islam's rules on women  on the other hand, apply to outside of the mosques.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 05:57:58 pm »
1. He talked mostly to believers. Christ talked to non believers but they had free will to believe that he’s the messiah. However since non Christians today knows that Jesus Christ is who Christians believe to be the messiah and son of God, him talking now would automatically cause non believers to believe.
Sure, seems reasonable. On a totally unrelated note, objects falling down all the time violates our free will to not believe in gravity.
2. There are Muslim kiddie diddlers too. In fact their religion itself condones it since Muhammad was one. While there has been a scandal in the Catholic Church, those priests that do that violate Christian doctrine. Pearl clutchers and repressed jeans fetishists are not really issues while Islam has terrorism, wife beating, and forcing women to cover their heads.
You make a valid point. Nonetheless, I feel we'd be much better off without all of these grown men and women with imaginary friends in the first place.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 05:59:00 pm »
The argument that 'Free will' requires god not to talk to us or to reveal its existence in a manner which would convince every single person in humanity is complete shit. Let's just completely ignore all the times in the Bible that God has revealed himself, fuck he even had a homoerotic tussle with Jacob. Instead assuming that the believer also believes in Satan. Satan had direct and intimate contact with god and yet still chose to reject him.

The fact is you can't make a truly free decision unless it is informed which for free will to work would require each person to have a convincing revelation of God.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2018, 06:10:07 pm »
The argument that 'Free will' requires god not to talk to us or to reveal its existence in a manner which would convince every single person in humanity is complete shit. Let's just completely ignore all the times in the Bible that God has revealed himself, fuck he even had a homoerotic tussle with Jacob. Instead assuming that the believer also believes in Satan. Satan had direct and intimate contact with god and yet still chose to reject him.

The fact is you can't make a truly free decision unless it is informed which for free will to work would require each person to have a convincing revelation of God.

God revealed himself to people for specific reasons, but made sure that he would not convince every single person in humanity. The difference between Satan and humans is that Satan was an angel so he therefore thought he had the power to overthrow God. Humans know that they don't have that power, so all humans would worship God in fear of him if he revealed himself. And you can make a truly free decision because you can still choose to worship God or not, even if you did not experience a revelation from him.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2018, 07:38:06 pm »
The argument that 'Free will' requires god not to talk to us or to reveal its existence in a manner which would convince every single person in humanity is complete shit. Let's just completely ignore all the times in the Bible that God has revealed himself, fuck he even had a homoerotic tussle with Jacob. Instead assuming that the believer also believes in Satan. Satan had direct and intimate contact with god and yet still chose to reject him.

The fact is you can't make a truly free decision unless it is informed which for free will to work would require each person to have a convincing revelation of God.

God revealed himself to people for specific reasons, but made sure that he would not convince every single person in humanity. The difference between Satan and humans is that Satan was an angel so he therefore thought he had the power to overthrow God. Humans know that they don't have that power, so all humans would worship God in fear of him if he revealed himself. And you can make a truly free decision because you can still choose to worship God or not, even if you did not experience a revelation from him.

But everyone accepts that you cannot make a free decision with imperfect information. So no, I don't have a free choice.  As an Angel Satan would have known better than others that God was omnipotent and therefore incapable of being overthrown yet he rejected him anyway. Maybe because he's a douchebag and Satan was upset about God ordering him to torture Job and his family.

Let's face it you cannot have free choice with imperfect information. The only people who would worship god because of the power are authoritarians and most of them are religious anyway.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2018, 07:49:54 pm »
The argument that 'Free will' requires god not to talk to us or to reveal its existence in a manner which would convince every single person in humanity is complete shit. Let's just completely ignore all the times in the Bible that God has revealed himself, fuck he even had a homoerotic tussle with Jacob. Instead assuming that the believer also believes in Satan. Satan had direct and intimate contact with god and yet still chose to reject him.

The fact is you can't make a truly free decision unless it is informed which for free will to work would require each person to have a convincing revelation of God.

God revealed himself to people for specific reasons, but made sure that he would not convince every single person in humanity. The difference between Satan and humans is that Satan was an angel so he therefore thought he had the power to overthrow God. Humans know that they don't have that power, so all humans would worship God in fear of him if he revealed himself. And you can make a truly free decision because you can still choose to worship God or not, even if you did not experience a revelation from him.

But everyone accepts that you cannot make a free decision with imperfect information. So no, I don't have a free choice.  As an Angel Satan would have known better than others that God was omnipotent and therefore incapable of being overthrown yet he rejected him anyway. Maybe because he's a douchebag and Satan was upset about God ordering him to torture Job and his family.

Let's face it you cannot have free choice with imperfect information. The only people who would worship god because of the power are authoritarians and most of them are religious anyway.

It is not a totally free decision, but it is more free than if he just revealed himself to you. Satan rejected God because he wants to sin and be in charge of hell. Humans on the other hand don’t want to go to hell, which is why they would automatically worship God if he revealed himself, in fear of going to hell.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2018, 09:22:08 pm »
I think plenty of people would choose to go to hell, I suspect it would be nicer

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2018, 08:04:17 am »
I think plenty of people would choose to go to hell, I suspect it would be nicer

The bible and Dante's Inferno describe how horrible a place that hell is. Most people realize that and would not want to go there if they realized that it exists.

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Re: Ireland repeals its blasphemy law
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2018, 09:15:56 am »
Fuck your god.