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More proof that Christianity is true.
« on: November 03, 2018, 12:35:19 pm »
The Genesis creation narrative which metaphorically describes the creation of the Earth, and the evolution of life and mankind is very similar to ancient Mesopotamian creation accounts indicating that the Mesopotamian creation accounts are based on the book of Genesis validating the book of Genesis. The Epic of Gilgamesh for example describes the incident in the Garden of Eden, all the way up to the great flood in the Middle East.
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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2018, 05:09:19 pm »
The Genesis creation narrative which metaphorically describes the creation of the Earth, and the evolution of life and mankind is very similar to ancient Mesopotamian creation accounts indicating that the Mesopotamian creation accounts are based on the book of Genesis validating the book of Genesis. The Epic of Gilgamesh for example describes the incident in the Garden of Eden, all the way up to the great flood in the Middle East.

Cart before the horse, Mesopotamia came first, Judaism came later. Judaism incorporated Mesopotamian myths into their own mythology because incorporating other religious stories into your own religion is really common.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2018, 05:22:03 pm »
The Genesis creation narrative which metaphorically describes the creation of the Earth, and the evolution of life and mankind is very similar to ancient Mesopotamian creation accounts indicating that the Mesopotamian creation accounts are based on the book of Genesis validating the book of Genesis. The Epic of Gilgamesh for example describes the incident in the Garden of Eden, all the way up to the great flood in the Middle East.

Cart before the horse, Mesopotamia came first, Judaism came later. Judaism incorporated Mesopotamian myths into their own mythology because incorporating other religious stories into your own religion is really common.
It is more likely that the Mesopotamia stories are later embellishments because the Old Testament does not have Mesopotamian gods in them, which they would if the Mesopotamian stories were incorporated.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2018, 06:03:09 pm »
Your story, predictably, takes the legends of Judaism at face value. The earliest archaeological evidence for Israel is the Merneptah Stele dated 1230 BC, the Eridu Genesis which is Sumerian not Mesopotamian but has the tale of the great flood the Israelites probably copied is dated 2300 BC, the name Israel itself invokes other pagan gods and there is evidence that the ancient Israelites worshipped them.

Judaism isn't even the first to come up with Monotheism, the cult of Aten preceded the earliest archaeological evidence of "Israel" mentioned above. It's just another example of how mythology changes and evolves with time.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2018, 06:51:50 pm »
And don't forget the Zoroastrians.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2018, 07:33:43 pm »
Your story, predictably, takes the legends of Judaism at face value. The earliest archaeological evidence for Israel is the Merneptah Stele dated 1230 BC, the Eridu Genesis which is Sumerian not Mesopotamian but has the tale of the great flood the Israelites probably copied is dated 2300 BC, the name Israel itself invokes other pagan gods and there is evidence that the ancient Israelites worshipped them.

Judaism isn't even the first to come up with Monotheism, the cult of Aten preceded the earliest archaeological evidence of "Israel" mentioned above. It's just another example of how mythology changes and evolves with time.
Both the Book of Genesis and the Eridu Genesis are written accounts based on what was told in oral tradition. Since the Israelites were God’s chosen people, God had them have the more accurate account of what happened.

I unfortunetely do not have full access to the Haretz article because I’m not subscribed, but I know this. The name Israel has El in it, and El is a Hebrew term in the Old Testament used synonymously with Yahweh. And the Bible documents that the Ancient Israelites turned against God and began worshipping Pagan gods. That is why God had them go into exile.

And thank you for citing the Mernaptah Stele, which is historical proof that Israel was a significant nation at that time, which is more proof of the Bible.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2018, 09:24:53 pm »
Your story, predictably, takes the legends of Judaism at face value. The earliest archaeological evidence for Israel is the Merneptah Stele dated 1230 BC, the Eridu Genesis which is Sumerian not Mesopotamian but has the tale of the great flood the Israelites probably copied is dated 2300 BC, the name Israel itself invokes other pagan gods and there is evidence that the ancient Israelites worshipped them.

Judaism isn't even the first to come up with Monotheism, the cult of Aten preceded the earliest archaeological evidence of "Israel" mentioned above. It's just another example of how mythology changes and evolves with time.
Both the Book of Genesis and the Eridu Genesis are written accounts based on what was told in oral tradition. Since the Israelites were God’s chosen people, God had them have the more accurate account of what happened.

I unfortunetely do not have full access to the Haretz article because I’m not subscribed, but I know this. The name Israel has El in it, and El is a Hebrew term in the Old Testament used synonymously with Yahweh. And the Bible documents that the Ancient Israelites turned against God and began worshipping Pagan gods. That is why God had them go into exile.

And thank you for citing the Mernaptah Stele, which is historical proof that Israel was a significant nation at that time, which is more proof of the Bible.
"Ceased to exist" is not proof of significance. It's evidence that they knew it once existed but wasn't significant enough to last and it's the only solid proof of it's existence at the time, the bible was penned later so there's no evidence that the stories that finally made it into their pages were based on the oral traditions of whoever the ancestors of the Israelite were.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2018, 08:07:19 am »
Your story, predictably, takes the legends of Judaism at face value. The earliest archaeological evidence for Israel is the Merneptah Stele dated 1230 BC, the Eridu Genesis which is Sumerian not Mesopotamian but has the tale of the great flood the Israelites probably copied is dated 2300 BC, the name Israel itself invokes other pagan gods and there is evidence that the ancient Israelites worshipped them.

Judaism isn't even the first to come up with Monotheism, the cult of Aten preceded the earliest archaeological evidence of "Israel" mentioned above. It's just another example of how mythology changes and evolves with time.
Both the Book of Genesis and the Eridu Genesis are written accounts based on what was told in oral tradition. Since the Israelites were God’s chosen people, God had them have the more accurate account of what happened.

I unfortunetely do not have full access to the Haretz article because I’m not subscribed, but I know this. The name Israel has El in it, and El is a Hebrew term in the Old Testament used synonymously with Yahweh. And the Bible documents that the Ancient Israelites turned against God and began worshipping Pagan gods. That is why God had them go into exile.

And thank you for citing the Mernaptah Stele, which is historical proof that Israel was a significant nation at that time, which is more proof of the Bible.
"Ceased to exist" is not proof of significance. It's evidence that they knew it once existed but wasn't significant enough to last and it's the only solid proof of it's existence at the time, the bible was penned later so there's no evidence that the stories that finally made it into their pages were based on the oral traditions of whoever the ancestors of the Israelite were.

It does not say “ceased to exist.” It says that Israel is laid waste. Evidence that the stories were based on oral traditions is the fact that the Mesopotamian accounts are different from the Bible accounts indicating that the Bible accounts did not copy the Mesopotamian accounts but that they instead are both based on oral tradition.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2018, 06:47:38 pm »
So at the bottom of this pile of bollocks you have fireside yarns that change with each telling like a game of Chinese whispers? Geddoudahere!

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2018, 06:56:40 pm »
So at the bottom of this pile of bollocks you have fireside yarns that change with each telling like a game of Chinese whispers? Geddoudahere!

But the oral traditions that the Old Testamament was based on is accurate because God made it so, since the Israelites were his chosen people who were going to write it down, so he wanted it to be accurate.

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2018, 10:44:20 pm »
So at the bottom of this pile of bollocks you have fireside yarns that change with each telling like a game of Chinese whispers? Geddoudahere!

But the oral traditions that the Old Testamament was based on is accurate because God made it so, since the Israelites were his chosen people who were going to write it down, so he wanted it to be accurate.
Beautifully circular logic, the OT said God wrote it so it was divinely inspired because it says so.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2018, 07:37:26 am »
So at the bottom of this pile of bollocks you have fireside yarns that change with each telling like a game of Chinese whispers? Geddoudahere!

But the oral traditions that the Old Testamament was based on is accurate because God made it so, since the Israelites were his chosen people who were going to write it down, so he wanted it to be accurate.
Beautifully circular logic, the OT said God wrote it so it was divinely inspired because it says so.



It is not circular logic because there is evidence outside the Bible such as Our Lady of Fátima and the Soviet Scientists who drilled a hole in the Earth and discovered hell.

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Re: More proof that Christianity is true.
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2018, 11:10:03 am »
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-well-to-hell/

Snopes is run by heathens who hate Godly people. Of course they would lie about the truth of any claim that so clearly and unequivocally demonstrates the validity of Christianity.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2018, 11:25:16 am »
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-well-to-hell/

Ok, you made me realize that the well to hell was a hoax. I found a YouTube video on it and believed it. Maybe I should check the sources before believing a YouTube video.

However, a true thing that happened is that the diver Jacques Cousteau and one of his men heard sounds of human screaming when exploring an underwater gave in the Bermuda Triangle.

Furthermore, scientists have validated hell when making underwater discoveries.

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Scientists recently discovered cracks on the ocean floor where fire was leaking out. Do you know what they found around these fire-breathing vents in the crust? Riftia, giant tube WORMS. Measuring up to 8 feet in length, the worms are ONLY FOUND NEAR DEEP SEA VENTS."

And Jesus Christ said, "Where their WORMS dieth not, and the fire is not quenched"
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