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Why King James?
« on: February 25, 2012, 12:13:15 pm »
Why are so many fundies insistant upon using the King James Bible?  Isn't it more difficult to read? (all the thee and thous). 

The only reason I can think of is the time (shortly after the reformation).  But maybe there's something more to it. 

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 12:20:10 pm »
Why are so many fundies insistant upon using the King James Bible?  Isn't it more difficult to read? (all the thee and thous). 

The only reason I can think of is the time (shortly after the reformation).  But maybe there's something more to it.
Its all the archaic words. To fundies those words are a mark of holiness. Anyone spewing 17th century sounding terminology MUST be holy, and thus must be obeyed.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 01:40:27 pm »
Why are so many fundies insistant upon using the King James Bible?  Isn't it more difficult to read? (all the thee and thous). 

The only reason I can think of is the time (shortly after the reformation).  But maybe there's something more to it.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 03:07:24 pm »
Yeah, I was about to say, I think they think it makes it sound smarter.

In reality, it's redundant gibberish. They could probably cut about 800 pages if God would stop talking about what he's going to do before he does it.

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2012, 04:03:11 pm »
I tried reading the King James version once.  I went back to Shakespeare for more entertaining reading after about three pages.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 04:07:56 pm »
That's what I usually point to as an example of something that is actually GOOD written in Ye Olde Englishe.

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2012, 05:38:24 pm »
Off-topic: Personally I think Shakespeare was a hack who got very lucky.

On-topic: There are minor differences in certain passages. I don't have the list in front of me at the moment, and I don't really care to look it up, but the biggest difference is that the King James Version has some of the laws regarding divorce slightly modified. This was done so that some old king could divorce his wife (hence, King James Bible). Now, if you're thinking to yourself "doesn't the bible have rules against editing it?" Well, yes, which is why the New King James Version reverts those changes but preserves the archaic words. Future translations like NIV are based on the NKJV, not the KJV.

As for why fundies insist on the KJV and not the NKJV... fuck if I know.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2012, 06:06:04 pm »
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Off-topic: Personally I think Shakespeare was a hack who got very lucky.

Incredibly unlikely for multiple reasons:

1. His works have withstood the test of time.
2. It's often-theorized that his plays are the work of a playwrite who couldn't get his ideas accepted using his real name.
3. His Tropes suggest that he knew his audience, & could entertain both high & low society at the same time.

Are his stories the most complicated, original plots ever? Certainly not. Probably not even in his day. But that isn't the only mark of literary quality, & could very well have been intentional.

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2012, 06:18:50 pm »
Wasn't the Book of Mormon written in extremely flowery language because "thees" and "thous" make it sound all archaic and holy?

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2012, 06:19:47 pm »
Some door-to-door lady dropped off a Book of Mormon the other day... had we not thrown it out the day we got it, I could answer that question. >_>
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2012, 06:26:52 pm »
Why are so many fundies insistant upon using the King James Bible?  Isn't it more difficult to read? (all the thee and thous). 

The only reason I can think of is the time (shortly after the reformation).  But maybe there's something more to it.
Its all the archaic words. To fundies those words are a mark of holiness. Anyone spewing 17th century sounding terminology MUST be holy, and thus must be obeyed.

LOL I always got annoyed by people who talked like that.  I always want to respond with...

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Same with Christianese. 

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2012, 07:34:42 pm »
Ugh, count me in on that. Shakespeare, the Bible, FFXII, so many things get immediate praise just because they sound like Old English. And if you don't like it, you must just not understand. Because it's so DEEP.

I can't say I know what Christianese is, though.

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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2012, 08:11:25 pm »
Wasn't the Book of Mormon written in extremely flowery language because "thees" and "thous" make it sound all archaic and holy?

So was a lot of the original Gardnerian Wiccan Book of Shadows, which actually only dates back to the 1950's.
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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2012, 09:57:02 pm »
Well one of the reasons that I have been told is that the KJV is the "original" and "accurate" version. That is, it is the oldest English translation of the Bible from Latin. many put their faith in this text and claim that newer translations or versions of the Bible are corrupt. This isn't correct by the way but many argue that the KJV is the closest they can get to the Bible being "true."


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Re: Why King James?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2012, 10:08:27 pm »
You know, I don't actually know why the KJV is preferred. Maybe it's the only Bible that has the crazier verses that they love to use?