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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2235 on: January 07, 2014, 10:31:36 am »
The opposite of trans. Basically your sex and your gender match.


The rabbit hole is deep this morning:

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You are problematic if...

    You are only attracted to your own race
    You are only attracted to a race other than your own
    You won’t date trans* people even if they are post-op
    You aren’t attracted to superfats (300 + lb)
    You think demisexuality “isn’t real”
    You won’t date a schizophrenic
    You only date cis-gendered people and won’t date those who identify as both or no gender.
    You identify as human and will not date otherkin
    You refuse to date those who are practicing Pagans and Witches.
    You only date those who are neurotypical.
    You specifically seek out trans* people, neuro atypical people or otherkin because you think we’re “exotic”

That is all.  You all suck.

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To all White, Hetero, Male, Cis-gendered etc...

You are not allowed to have a voice.  You have had a “voice” for too damn long.

You aren’t my “ally”.  You are my oppressor.  Even agreeing with me is offensive and perhaps even triggering.

White people, go talk about white things.  Don’t get involved with my shit.  Same with hetero, male, whatever.  Do hetero male shit.  Don’t bug me.

Keep in mind that even if you stay away from issues of social justice you are STILL fucking triggering because you are DENYING major issues.

So basically, you are fucked.  How does it feel?

And answering this.

How can a marriage between two men be in any way oppressive towards women?

Even if you agree that marriage is slavery, there are no women in that marriage to be enslaved.

Because then you've given the men patriarchal privilege because they can have something the women can't have, since no woman ever should be involved in a marriage.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2236 on: January 07, 2014, 10:39:39 am »
It's been a long time since I've seen Pocahontas, so forgive my ignorance:  How is it racist?

I don't know about racism, but it heavily whitewashes actual colonial history into a family-friendly musical where one lone holier-than-thou native girl keeps the colonists and her tribe from going to war (when in reality the colonists led a 200+ year campaign to take as much land from the natives as possible, engaging in actions that were downright genocidal) with the power of love.

As a more minor historical quibble, it also depicts Pocahontas as being at least in her 20s and John Smith as her romantic interest. In reality, John Smith was 27 when he landed and Pocahontas would have been 10. When she was a teenager, she was married off to John Rolfe (who claimed that he wanted to teach her Christianity, but probably enjoyed having a young teenage girl who didn't speak much English) and spent maybe a decade living as an object of curiosity in England before dying of tuberculosis.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2237 on: January 07, 2014, 10:39:54 am »
The opposite of trans. Basically your sex and your gender match.


The rabbit hole is deep this morning:

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erasingprivilege

You are problematic if...

    You are only attracted to your own race
    You are only attracted to a race other than your own
    You won’t date trans* people even if they are post-op
    You aren’t attracted to superfats (300 + lb)
    You think demisexuality “isn’t real”
    You won’t date a schizophrenic
    You only date cis-gendered people and won’t date those who identify as both or no gender.
    You identify as human and will not date otherkin
    You refuse to date those who are practicing Pagans and Witches.
    You only date those who are neurotypical.
    You specifically seek out trans* people, neuro atypical people or otherkin because you think we’re “exotic”

So saying people are horrible human beings for no other reason than who they love?  How does this perosn think they're any bteer than homophobes?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2238 on: January 07, 2014, 10:41:41 am »
Only just noticed this bit:

The opposite of trans. Basically your sex and your gender match.


The rabbit hole is deep this morning:

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You are problematic if...

You identify as human and will not date otherkin

What in the name of fuck?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2239 on: January 07, 2014, 10:50:28 am »
Otherkin are people who believe they are a different species born into the wrong body. We have a few of them on the board, or at least we had. One was a wolf? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.



I'd give them their argument if it weren't for the fact most pride events are public events held by the city.

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cynically—colorblind:

    "Masturbation is something that we all do and it hurts no one so it is not wrong. It is natural and beautiful."

    I’m going to fucking stab someone. There’s nothing beautiful about being a selfish slut and no, not everyone does it. Fuck you and your sex normative bullshit.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2240 on: January 07, 2014, 10:55:42 am »
Otherkin are people who believe they are a different species born into the wrong body. We have a few of them on the board, or at least we had. One was a wolf? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't want to be a prick, and I know homosexuality was baffingly thought of as a mental illness until recently, but that sounds to me like a pyschological condition like lycanthropy or something.

As long as they ain't hurting anyone or themselves then "whatever", I guess.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2241 on: January 07, 2014, 11:06:55 am »
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cynically—colorblind:

    "Masturbation is something that we all do and it hurts no one so it is not wrong. It is natural and beautiful."

    I’m going to fucking stab someone. There’s nothing beautiful about being a selfish slut and no, not everyone does it. Fuck you and your sex normative bullshit.

Déjà vu...

I have a response to the other quote but I need to be off my phone.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2242 on: January 07, 2014, 12:40:07 pm »


The original prides were more akin to protests and were not city condoned, but they were public and straight people were there. He makes a valid point in that straight folks shouldn't invade safe closed spaces, because there are already plenty of spaces for straight people to voice their support of the LGBT community. Again to invoke Malcolm X, allies should seek to include us in spaces where they have dominance, not try to barge into our space. That said, modern prides are open and public spaces and plenty of queer folks go just for fun too.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2243 on: January 07, 2014, 01:12:52 pm »
So someone else's mere existence is triggering?

Why do SJW types think it's okay to treat entire groups of people like dirt? The hypocrisy is astounding.
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« Reply #2244 on: January 07, 2014, 02:03:14 pm »
It's been my experience that PoC is used by the same white cis people who will bitch at you if you don't put an asterisk after "trans". It makes them feel like special snowflakes to absolve their white, cis tumblr-guilt in this manner instead of, you know, doing actual helpful things for other communities.

Finally, someone who sees how meaningless the asterisk is. There is a reason I lampoon it, because it's far more harmful than helpful. The only two reasons I've heard for the asterisk are pathetic: (1) "we put the star on 'trans' to draw attention to ourselves and our struggles", and (2) "it is (somehow) more inclusive." The first one was said by a transwoman I have little respect for. But the "inclusiveness" argument just irks me. We already have an umbrella term, "transgender." A person choosing to live as the other gender is a "transsexual" a person who displays quality of both are "bi-gendered." A person just enjoying to dress as the other gender on occasion is a "cross-dresser," a "transvestite," or a "drag-king/queen" (avoid transvestite though, has more negative connotations, but some prefer it). People who choose not to confine themselves to gender are "genderqueer" and people who choose to not play into gender at all are "agendered" or as some prefer "genderfuck."

So, we already have a term that has been around for 35 years that does what "trans*" seeks to do. But then what about the other implication, that it makes such terms as "trans" or "transgender" exclusive and discriminatory? The contrapositive to "'trans*' is more inclusive" is that "'Trans' is discriminatory." And that bothers me because now, you're taking a group who already has a shit ton of social problems and throwing a bigot on them just because they don't see the awesomeness of the asterisk. I seriously think it was made up by a troll who did not have our best interests in mind.

Finally, the only real difference I've seen in usage between "trans*" and "trans" is that people include the asterisk if they're not trying to look offensive. At most, it's placating, but does nothing to solve any problems.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2245 on: January 07, 2014, 06:42:04 pm »
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I do think that people who are not in heteronormative relationships should have all the same freedoms that straight people get, but I don’t think ANYONE should be allowed to marry. If you give women a ‘choice’ to do something that is inherently unfeminist, most women will take that choice because they have been brainwashed.  This is why PiV sex, certain types of birthing and marriage should be outlawed.  Women take these choices not because they really want them but because they have been indoctrinated into unnatural heterosexuality from such an early age that they don’t even know right from wrong anymore.


I know this is most likely a troll, but I've seen a few people argue this and honestly mean it.

I hate this argument. This argument is incredibly insulting to women. This argument is basically saying that if a woman chooses to be straight, have PIV sex, or become a housewife, she's too god damn stupid to know what's good for her and needs the almighty Tumblr fauximist to come set her right.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2246 on: January 07, 2014, 09:22:03 pm »
Fuck I hate identity politics.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2248 on: January 07, 2014, 11:59:41 pm »
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I do think that people who are not in heteronormative relationships should have all the same freedoms that straight people get, but I don’t think ANYONE should be allowed to marry. If you give women a ‘choice’ to do something that is inherently unfeminist, most women will take that choice because they have been brainwashed.  This is why PiV sex, certain types of birthing and marriage should be outlawed.  Women take these choices not because they really want them but because they have been indoctrinated into unnatural heterosexuality from such an early age that they don’t even know right from wrong anymore.


I know this is most likely a troll, but I've seen a few people argue this and honestly mean it.

I hate this argument. This argument is incredibly insulting to women. This argument is basically saying that if a woman chooses to be straight, have PIV sex, or become a housewife, she's too god damn stupid to know what's good for her and needs the almighty Tumblr fauximist to come set her right.
These people need to meed my mom. Housewife, black belt, willing and able to eloquently rip idiots a new one when they really ask for it.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2249 on: January 08, 2014, 12:40:15 am »
So there's this cunt

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