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Re: Sonichu Thread
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2013, 04:39:50 pm »
So wait, is the CWCki still up? I thought it got hit with malware problems or something a few months back. I haven't been on it in almost half a year. It's still around?
CWCki's still up... it's been up for as long as I can remember, actually. I would go there from time to time to see if anything new would happen, but now I rarely touch it. I tried joining the forums too some time in 2011 when it was all coming to an end, but I never got an activation e-mail because they were using Yuku, and Yuku's apparently mad gay (I tried making a forum on Yuku not that long after that. Got nothing but trouble out of it). I don't recall seeing Chitoryu as a mod like he stated in the first page of the thread, but when I think about it, I think he might have been there. Maybe he was promoted after I gave up on trying to post there. Now I get most of my news on Chris from some of the guys I talk to in a Skype group who still tend to keep up with him every now and then.

If he does go nuts one day and kills someone. I hope its some of those people that document his every move, even the creator of the wiki.

Now that would be hilarious
I wouldn't say my friends document his every move, but come on, they're nice people and haven't ever done anything to hurt him. I assume a lot of the people who follow him are like my friends. As for Cogsdev, I've heard stuff about him/her/it/whatever, I don't know, and none of the things I've heard have been good things.

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« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2013, 09:50:09 pm »
I was only a moderator throughout most of 2012 up to about midway through January this year.
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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2013, 07:22:15 pm »
It's funny. I haven't seen a Chris video in months... but as soon as I start reading some of his Facebook messages, I remember exactly how he sounds. The voice, the speech patterns, everything. You just never forget it. It's like the way a Zora Neale Hurston book emulates southern speech patterns by... actually no. No, it's just silly.
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« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2013, 01:26:45 am »
I'd prefer he be stopped before he kills someone, myself. As much as I like irony, I prefer that those involved be alive to see what they had wrought. There are times that I wonder if the CWCki people didn't create a monster by feeding the attention whore. OTOH, he let them do it, and what's more, his is a willful ignorance. I suppose there's plenty of room for blame. I'm not letting the wiki off the hook for the medallion incident, and feel they should be prosecuted, for example.


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« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2013, 01:49:32 am »
I'd prefer he be stopped before he kills someone, myself. As much as I like irony, I prefer that those involved be alive to see what they had wrought. There are times that I wonder if the CWCki people didn't create a monster by feeding the attention whore. OTOH, he let them do it, and what's more, his is a willful ignorance. I suppose there's plenty of room for blame. I'm not letting the wiki off the hook for the medallion incident, and feel they should be prosecuted, for example.

Chris wouldn't have turned out much different without the trolling and CWCki. The CWCki, especially, hasn't really done much directly to him in the first place.

Chris was already feeding off of what he got in real life, while also alienating people; Megan's story should give you a good idea. But the trolling meant that he was eventually so paranoid that he could form a conspiracy in his head that has forced him away from almost anyone out of terror. Had this never happened, he likely would have obliviously continued to screw around with real world people instead of being distracted by his internet quests.
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« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2013, 03:08:57 am »
Thats no excuse for being worthless pieces of shit
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« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2013, 10:12:21 am »
I'd prefer he be stopped before he kills someone, myself. As much as I like irony, I prefer that those involved be alive to see what they had wrought. There are times that I wonder if the CWCki people didn't create a monster by feeding the attention whore. OTOH, he let them do it, and what's more, his is a willful ignorance. I suppose there's plenty of room for blame. I'm not letting the wiki off the hook for the medallion incident, and feel they should be prosecuted, for example.

Honestly, what would Chris be without his "fans?" Chris has always and will always be completely self-entitled, certain that nothing is his fault and that he deserves the world and any force or decision that does not lead to his getting what he wants is "evil" and "against him." Chris was like that before he was discovered. All this trolling has actually done nothing to Chris' personality or actions except give him a new name for "evil." Chris has proven through things like the call with Kacey's dad that no force on earth can change his personality or view of the world, even when to do so would be to his immediate gain.

If he'd never been discovered, he'd still be overweight, alone, miserable, and blaming the world for his troubles. He still would have tried to run Michael Snyder over with his car, he still would try to use his form of black magic on people and pray for their death, he still would have ended up exactly the same. All this attention has done something Chris could never do alone: it's made someone beside Chris happy and it's given him purpose. Chris thinks he deserves to be the center of a great drama. Well, in a weird way, he is now. All this attention has actually made Chris' antics worthwhile. They've become a contribution to the world, however small and strange. Hell, in that way, Chris' fans have given him a gift most people never get. Chris will be remember by more people than Joe Blow if only because he's too strange to forget about.
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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2013, 06:50:59 am »
NECRO POWERS ACTIVATE!Ok, I think someone needs to troll Chris into making another issue.
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« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2013, 06:54:15 am »
NECRO POWERS ACTIVATE!Ok, I think someone needs to troll Chris into making another issue.

No, he doesn't need help with that.

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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2013, 07:06:54 am »
NECRO POWERS ACTIVATE!Ok, I think someone needs to troll Chris into making another issue.

Not gonna happen.

This was a subject that came up frequently on the CWCki forums, and people who are more "in the know" were able to shed more light on it. The Sonichu comics were a combination of wish fulfillment and a "happy place" for Chris. He was (and still is) powerless in real life, but he's highly averse to change and frankly views himself as, if not perfect, then completely fine and never in need of improvement. So instead of trying to help himself out, he used Sonichu as a way to fight his battles for him. When he got in trouble with the college dean or Target security, he could act out the events in his mind through the comic book and essentially live vicariously through his fantasies, depicting himself as victorious in his struggles.

When the trolls arrived, they changed Sonichu. His comic became a recounting of his battles with the Internet itself, and trolls often mocked the content or tried to manipulate it. Asperchu became a popular parody, with Chris naively viewing it as a copycat stealing his "fame" (he still imagined himself as world-famous, rather than infamous).

The last straw was Simonla Rosechu. She was a female character taken from a joke someone made to try and get it into the comic. Chris had the creator's permission, and even discussed the character with him, but he lied about certain aspects of the character and then attempted to refuse him any creative control over the character he made. Eventually he tried to outright deny that Simonla had any inspiration from anyone else's character, which resulted in mass derision from the "fanbase", who hounded him through various means (including editing his own self-made wiki) until he finally killed the character off.

That was the true sign to Chris that Sonichu, as well as his own wiki, was no longer his safe haven. The trolls could now influence it, and in his stupidity and stubborn attempts to deny reality he made himself a fool time and time again. He was completely scared off from making any continuations of the storyline.

That's not to say he's totally given up drawing. He revealed a few more original works, including turning one of the established youth characters into a Tomgirl like himself (for those not in the know, a "Tomgirl" is some bizarre half-transvestite amalgamation of horrific misinterpretations of sex and gender roles that could literally only come from a mind such as his). But as a comic book, the series is done for now. Nothing will convince him except himself.
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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2013, 07:09:46 am »
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2013, 07:28:18 am »
*Evilly laughs and mutters to self.

No, you won't do it either.

Look, EVERYONE has had some kind of idea about him. Trolls want to be the next Clyde Cash. White knights want to save Chris from himself, ignoring the countless masses that have failed to get in even a little bit with him.

Chris, as of late 2012, has shut himself off completely from the world. In fact, in 2012 he only spent a few brief months at at the end of summer and through the fall actually being himself and responding to trolls, never realizing that the trolls themselves were still manipulating his actions for their own amusement. The death of his father hit him hard (ironically, though, the CWCki and trolls gave a better tribute to him than he did), and he's been almost totally shut off. The vast majority of his responses to online baiting have been angry Facebook posts directed to them, which we no longer even get to see after he figured out how to make his Wall private; we only occasionally get dumps of leaked content from weeks or months ago.

Chris doesn't care. He has legit fear of a trolling conspiracy surrounding him since his birth, and views everyone even a tiny bit negative or suspicious as a troll. A white knight trying to get him to shape up? A troll trick. A Burger King employee texting in a McDonalds? A troll agent communicating with his shadowy comrades on the internet. That one actually happened, by the way. He's so terrified that he's shut himself off from almost everyone who hasn't already known him in real life for a long time. With his mother's likely impending death, things will be thrown even more into havoc.

It's really best to just give up on any plans you may have or want to implement. Even if you figured out how to contact Chris without being automatically sent to the spam filter or ignored (he totally ignores unrecognized phone numbers, and will only give thought to ones with a local area code in the first place before ignoring them if they're not already in his contact list), he'll wall himself off as soon as he has even an inkling of any sort of ill behavior. He may be gullible as fuck, but he's gradually managed to learn not to blindly trust everyone he sees. Unfortunately, he's replaced this with blind fear of everyone new (mixed with the old blind trust in everyone he already knew).

It's simply a fact that you won't troll Chris. Not unless you consider planting burning crosses or whatnot on his lawn or otherwise harassing him in real life, in which case you can go right ahead if you're okay with plenty of people (including myself) promptly reporting you to the police.
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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2013, 12:07:05 pm »
The rules when it comes to trolling Chris these days are simple:
You can't get him to acknowledge you.
If you do, you can't get him to listen.
If you do, you can't get him to respond.
If you do, he won't respond as you want him to.
If he does, his response will be so half-assed that you will be disappointed and set out to try again.
The cycle repeats.

Someone managed to get to Chris somehow with dox on some of his supposed troll enemies. Chris thought he finally had a weapon and the troll behind it thought he finally had the means to get Chris to do exactly what he wanted. He could make him dance. It was going to be sweet. The troll gave Chris some orders on using the dox... and Chris botched them all up by doing what he wanted to instead. I recall that one thing the troll wanted out of Chris was for him to eat a whole block of cheese, hoping he'd get sick or something. Chris ate a pizza instead and while watching Chris eat is never pleasant, it wasn't what the troll wanted.

Then Bob died and the fete was off. The troll who had managed what seemed to be the wetdream of Chris-chasers was left with a half-assed idea, unrealized ambitions, and, best of all, no one in the world honestly cared about what he'd done because, ultimately, Chris acting out on his own was far funnier than any of the ideas the troll had been trying to feed to him. A block of cheese is childish. Chris coming up with the idea of a "tomgirl" was hysterical.

The only real "trolling" that works on Chris these days is the mere continued existence of his hated nemesis, the trolls. So long as people on the internet remember him, update wikis about him, and keep the info about what he's done available, Chris will be eternally trolled, in his own head.
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« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2013, 06:24:04 pm »
I swear I'm reading some sort of sci-fi book here. This is weirder than I ever thought it'd get.
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« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2013, 06:54:07 pm »
I swear I'm reading some sort of sci-fi book here. This is weirder than I ever thought it'd get.

Even the people who have the most vested interest in Chris don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes.

His mind is unique in all senses of the term. Literally nobody else we can find has a brain that works quite like his does. It goes beyond simply "autism and poor parenting." He was raised to fear and distrust everyone, especially mental health professionals. He was coddled beyond belief, always told that nothing was his fault and people were just jealous and/or fearful of him and his disability. When he inevitably failed in the work environment (he held a part-time job at Wendy's for something like a month in 2001 before getting fired), his father responded by pulling some strings to get him placed on social security disability, ensuring that he wouldn't have to work as long as his parents were still alive.

He has little understanding of sex, gleaning most of it from a mixture of pornography and strict Christian upbringing. He has stereotypically feminine characteristics and has said before that he'd be willing to have sex with a man if it pleased his internet girlfriend, but becomes nearly violently angry when accused of homosexuality. He created the concept of Tomgirl, an impossibly bizarre transvestite-esque caricature, and not even his closest companions know why. Maybe Chris himself doesn't know. Some say it was because he was told to "embrace his feminine side" to get girls and he just took it way too far (someone I know who's more knowledgeable confirms this happened, but even he doesn't know why Chris interpreted it this way). Some say he has legitimate gender confusion, but many are skeptical as he continues to insist that he's a man who happens to be a Tomgirl. Some say he wanted to be the male equivalent of a tomboy. Some say it's a bizarre way of expressing his closeted homosexual desires. Nobody knows; his mind is too fractured to glean any information.

He has both severe gullibility and severe paranoia. Anyone he doesn't know is automatically a villain until they prove otherwise, and even their method of proof may be taken as evidence of wrongdoing. Even the police and courts are in the trolls' pocket, and he's retroactively accused people in his past of being trolls or even starting the whole conspiracy. At the same time, he mindlessly follows anyone he already trusts and will never believe that they would do him wrong. Though that behavior may change, as a troll recently posed as his cousin to get information.

He hates and fears authority, as people higher than him are the one check on his behavior. He would likely do a lot of nasty things if he didn't have to fear retribution, either from the establishment (like police and school officials) or from the many people stronger and smarter than him. He taunts the police and mall security and flaunts their rules, but panics and runs screaming (sometimes literally) as soon as they approach to punish him. At the same time, he has no problem trying to send said authority after those that he deems deserving of his wrath: many times he's attempted to threaten legal action against trolls or even people who just happened to annoy him. According to an incident where trolls crank called the local police station with a CWC soundboard, the police are fully aware of the Chandler family and may have had to deal with many false alarms or claims from them in the past.

He is both manipulative and manipulated, stubbornly determined and lazy beyond belief. He will get into an argument, have the upper hand or even have something he can legitimately hold over the other party's head, then drop out of the fight altogether because he can't bring himself to put forth the effort to press harder. When he's got his balls in the metaphorical vice and is over a barrel, he'll act like he's negotiating from the superior position. He lies and schemes his way around people, treating them more like video game NPCs that can give him what he wants instead of real human beings, but is so incompetent and unintelligent that they manipulate him back without him ever knowing (or he's so incompetent that his attempted manipulations merely backfire spectacularly). He is a walking contradiction.

He thinks the world owes him everything, while he owes it nothing but himself. He's perfectly content to sit around all day earning SSDI checks that he hardly deserves, without considering what life will be like when his mother dies and nobody is willing to care for him. When confronted with a problem, his first response is to either ignore it until it goes away or scream like a baby until someone fixes it for him.

His autism comes and goes as a disability or advantage as it pleases him. He will declare autistics to be the next step in human evolution and persecuted because of fear and hatred from inferior neurotypicals, and then immediately use "I'm retarded!" as an excuse when he gets caught doing something dumb.

The reason people have such a morbid fascination with Christian Weston Chandler is because he's a person like no other. Everything about him is a psychologist's dream case, though it would likely turn into a nightmare trying to actually get anything out of him: Chris fears mental health professionals and hates anyone who tries to fix him. He'll gladly lie through his teeth about anything and everything, especially things that may get him in trouble or scolded if he revealed them. One woman who tried to white knight him turned into a troll because it was "like talking to a brick wall." He is an unsalvageable mess, only good for study.
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