2014 Israel/Gaza conflict: electric boogaloo

[Ironchew]

I don't get it.  I really don't.  Israel has killed countless Palestinian kids and the world doesn't bat an eye.  Or rather it screams on high about how Israel needs to stop without doing anything to stop them.  One Israeli kid dies and suddenly it'll intensify the conflict?  How?

Ironbite-actual ground invasion instead of bombing runs?

Maybe they will just start being honest abut targeting civilians and tell the Palestinians "if you don't like it stop lobbing rockets at us (P.S. Leave!)."

(P.S.S. We won't let you leave!)

The border blockade is the most ridiculous aspect of this whole campaign. Something tells me Israel's populace would also become desperate if their neighbors colluded to block any travel or exchange of goods.

[Ultimate Paragon]

I don't get it.  I really don't.  Israel has killed countless Palestinian kids and the world doesn't bat an eye.  Or rather it screams on high about how Israel needs to stop without doing anything to stop them.  One Israeli kid dies and suddenly it'll intensify the conflict?  How?

Ironbite-actual ground invasion instead of bombing runs?

Maybe they will just start being honest abut targeting civilians and tell the Palestinians "if you don't like it stop lobbing rockets at us (P.S. Leave!)."

(P.S.S. We won't let you leave!)

The border blockade is the most ridiculous aspect of this whole campaign. Something tells me Israel's populace would also become desperate if their neighbors colluded to block any travel or exchange of goods.

Difference is, Israel hasn't been taken over by religiously fanatical terrorists.

[Ironchew]

I don't get it.  I really don't.  Israel has killed countless Palestinian kids and the world doesn't bat an eye.  Or rather it screams on high about how Israel needs to stop without doing anything to stop them.  One Israeli kid dies and suddenly it'll intensify the conflict?  How?

Ironbite-actual ground invasion instead of bombing runs?

Maybe they will just start being honest abut targeting civilians and tell the Palestinians "if you don't like it stop lobbing rockets at us (P.S. Leave!)."

(P.S.S. We won't let you leave!)

The border blockade is the most ridiculous aspect of this whole campaign. Something tells me Israel's populace would also become desperate if their neighbors colluded to block any travel or exchange of goods.

Difference is, Israel hasn't been taken over by religiously fanatical terrorists.

Haven't they?

Netanyahu would fit right in with ISIS if he was born a Muslim. His actions and rhetoric are extremist and it's only the technicality in the definition of the word "terrorism" excluding state actors that prevents us from using that word to appropriately describe this campaign. Netanyahu and co. want to exterminate the Palestinians -- if he hasn't outright said it, his actions say it for him.

[Ultimate Paragon]

I don't get it.  I really don't.  Israel has killed countless Palestinian kids and the world doesn't bat an eye.  Or rather it screams on high about how Israel needs to stop without doing anything to stop them.  One Israeli kid dies and suddenly it'll intensify the conflict?  How?

Ironbite-actual ground invasion instead of bombing runs?

Maybe they will just start being honest abut targeting civilians and tell the Palestinians "if you don't like it stop lobbing rockets at us (P.S. Leave!)."

(P.S.S. We won't let you leave!)

The border blockade is the most ridiculous aspect of this whole campaign. Something tells me Israel's populace would also become desperate if their neighbors colluded to block any travel or exchange of goods.

Difference is, Israel hasn't been taken over by religiously fanatical terrorists.

Haven't they?

Netanyahu would fit right in with ISIS if he was born a Muslim. His actions and rhetoric are extremist and it's only the technicality in the definition of the word "terrorism" excluding state actors that prevents us from using that word to appropriately describe this campaign. Netanyahu and co. want to exterminate the Palestinians -- if he hasn't outright said it, his actions say it for him.

If he wants to exterminate the Palestinians, he's really incompetent at it.  And if anything, Hamas is closer to ISIS.

[Second Coming of Madman]

Mr Glocky is out, you two.

[Ironchew]

Mr Glocky is out, you two.

Shove it up your ass.

[Canadian Mojo]

What's the Jewish equivalent of a saint -- or is just called a Netanyahu?

If the man doesn't actually want them all dead, he certainly does feel no qualms about bringing them to heel without any regard for their humanity. I would imagine this stems from the fact that probably doesn't think they are human, or, if they are, they are of a considerably lower class and therefore not worthy of the same basic rights as Israelis. His position can best be summed up as 'they live here at our leisure and they should be grateful we allow them that much.'

[Witchyjoshy]

Considering he has the world supporting him, he's actually doing a quality job.

He may not be doing it quickly, but he sure has the world supporting him in his crusade.

[Ultimate Paragon]

What's the Jewish equivalent of a saint -- or is just called a Netanyahu?

If the man doesn't actually want them all dead, he certainly does feel no qualms about bringing them to heel without any regard for their humanity. I would imagine this stems from the fact that probably doesn't think they are human, or, if they are, they are of a considerably lower class and therefore not worthy of the same basic rights as Israelis. His position can best be summed up as 'they live here at our leisure and they should be grateful we allow them that much.'

Assuming that's accurate, it's still kinder than how Hamas views Israel and the Jewish people.

Considering he has the world supporting him, he's actually doing a quality job.

He may not be doing it quickly, but he sure has the world supporting him in his crusade.

Define "supporting him".

And in any case, you don't seem to be complaining about the Egyptian role in the blockade.

[Cerim Treascair]

Magus's internet is on the fritz, so none of his posts are really getting through at the moment.  Pasting this on his behalf:


You ask me to define "supporting him" then essentially defined it in the next sentence.  Thank you.

But to further define it, I mean the fact that America basically throws money and support at Israel, and we've got entire crowds of people all over the world supporting everything happening to the Palestinians.  Christians, in particular, are useful to what's going on right now.

And now Russia's basically starting to do the same thing to the Ukraine, and there's a lot of useful idiots in America and other countries that are buying into anti-Ukrainian propaganda.

The difference is is that since Ukraine isn't filled with brown people, and they don't belong to a religion that is attributed to terrorism, the wrongs against them are far more well documented.

[Ultimate Paragon]

Magus's internet is on the fritz, so none of his posts are really getting through at the moment.  Pasting this on his behalf:


You ask me to define "supporting him" then essentially defined it in the next sentence.  Thank you.

But to further define it, I mean the fact that America basically throws money and support at Israel, and we've got entire crowds of people all over the world supporting everything happening to the Palestinians.  Christians, in particular, are useful to what's going on right now.

And now Russia's basically starting to do the same thing to the Ukraine, and there's a lot of useful idiots in America and other countries that are buying into anti-Ukrainian propaganda.

The difference is is that since Ukraine isn't filled with brown people, and they don't belong to a religion that is attributed to terrorism, the wrongs against them are far more well documented.

The difference is that Ukraine isn't run by terrorists, hasn't been firing rockets into Russian territory, and doesn't want to wipe Russia off the map.

I have no idea how you can think the two situations are remotely comparable.  If anything, you're the useful idiots.

[Dakota Bob]

Magus's internet is on the fritz, so none of his posts are really getting through at the moment.  Pasting this on his behalf:


You ask me to define "supporting him" then essentially defined it in the next sentence.  Thank you.

But to further define it, I mean the fact that America basically throws money and support at Israel, and we've got entire crowds of people all over the world supporting everything happening to the Palestinians.  Christians, in particular, are useful to what's going on right now.

And now Russia's basically starting to do the same thing to the Ukraine, and there's a lot of useful idiots in America and other countries that are buying into anti-Ukrainian propaganda.

The difference is is that since Ukraine isn't filled with brown people, and they don't belong to a religion that is attributed to terrorism, the wrongs against them are far more well documented.

The difference is that Ukraine isn't run by terrorists, hasn't been firing rockets into Russian territory, and doesn't want to wipe Russia off the map.

I have no idea how you can think the two situations are remotely comparable.  If anything, you're the useful idiots.

And Israel has successfully achieved the denial of a Palestinian state.

That reminded me of this article, which I find particularly relevant here: Palestinians live what Israelis fear

[Witchyjoshy]

Magus's internet is on the fritz, so none of his posts are really getting through at the moment.  Pasting this on his behalf:


You ask me to define "supporting him" then essentially defined it in the next sentence.  Thank you.

But to further define it, I mean the fact that America basically throws money and support at Israel, and we've got entire crowds of people all over the world supporting everything happening to the Palestinians.  Christians, in particular, are useful to what's going on right now.

And now Russia's basically starting to do the same thing to the Ukraine, and there's a lot of useful idiots in America and other countries that are buying into anti-Ukrainian propaganda.

The difference is is that since Ukraine isn't filled with brown people, and they don't belong to a religion that is attributed to terrorism, the wrongs against them are far more well documented.

The difference is that Ukraine isn't run by terrorists, hasn't been firing rockets into Russian territory, and doesn't want to wipe Russia off the map.

I have no idea how you can think the two situations are remotely comparable.  If anything, you're the useful idiots.

And Israel has successfully achieved the denial of a Palestinian state.

That reminded me of this article, which I find particularly relevant here: Palestinians live what Israelis fear

Boom.

Also I don't recall calling you a useful idiot, Ultimate Paragon.  So your insult was unwarranted and unfounded.

[Ultimate Paragon]

Magus's internet is on the fritz, so none of his posts are really getting through at the moment.  Pasting this on his behalf:


You ask me to define "supporting him" then essentially defined it in the next sentence.  Thank you.

But to further define it, I mean the fact that America basically throws money and support at Israel, and we've got entire crowds of people all over the world supporting everything happening to the Palestinians.  Christians, in particular, are useful to what's going on right now.

And now Russia's basically starting to do the same thing to the Ukraine, and there's a lot of useful idiots in America and other countries that are buying into anti-Ukrainian propaganda.

The difference is is that since Ukraine isn't filled with brown people, and they don't belong to a religion that is attributed to terrorism, the wrongs against them are far more well documented.

The difference is that Ukraine isn't run by terrorists, hasn't been firing rockets into Russian territory, and doesn't want to wipe Russia off the map.

I have no idea how you can think the two situations are remotely comparable.  If anything, you're the useful idiots.

And Israel has successfully achieved the denial of a Palestinian state.

That reminded me of this article, which I find particularly relevant here: Palestinians live what Israelis fear

Boom.

Also I don't recall calling you a useful idiot, Ultimate Paragon.  So your insult was unwarranted and unfounded.

Well, you didn't say it, but it seems like you were implying it.

Also, I agree, Israeli has done wrong.  But Hamas must take the lion's share of the blame for what is happening.  After Israel and Fatah worked so hard to dig the well of peace, they poisoned it by taking over Gaza through force.  Israel is responding to provocations.  I agree, the response is disproportionate at times.  However, that doesn't make what Hamas is doing right.

Hamas is the problem.  They don't want peace, they want domination.  They have always wanted domination.  They want to eliminate Israel and any Palestinians who disagree with them, and set up a brutal Islamic theocracy.  Before there can be a lasting peace, Hamas must either change its ways or go away.

[Witchyjoshy]

Hamas wants domination.  Israel already has domination.  Hamas wants to eliminate Israel and any Palestinians who disagree with them.  Israel's eliminated Palestine and are eliminating Palestinians regardless of agreement or not.

Read the fucking article.  Understand it.  Hamas is evil.  But Netanyu and the IDF are worse.  That is why THEY deserve the lion's share of the blame.