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Title: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: DiscoBerry on January 28, 2012, 10:24:14 am
Pretty self explanatory

http://current.com/community/93637303_obama-depicted-as-head-of-slave-ship-in-controversial-gop-ad.htm (http://current.com/community/93637303_obama-depicted-as-head-of-slave-ship-in-controversial-gop-ad.htm) 
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: nickiknack on January 28, 2012, 10:59:44 am
Ah, another Republican that whitewashes what happened under G. W. Bush & spins it to pin it on Obama.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: sandman on January 28, 2012, 11:25:03 am
How do these idiots NOT see that depicting a black president as the master of a slave ship filled with white children is incredibly offensive? Of all the possible imagery and metaphors they could have chose, THAT'S what they went with? Some pinhead media adviser sat in his office one day and suddenly thought, "Obama....black guy....SLAVES! That's the ticket!"

I mean, I get what Oxner is essentially trying to say (although I find him to be astoundingly disingenuous for blaming Obama for the debt, the bail-outs, and the plague of corporate welfare we are dealing with), but he honestly thought this was the best way to make his point? Slave imagery with a black president? Really?


(http://cdn.moxiebird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/really-seth-and-amy.gif)

Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 28, 2012, 11:28:26 am
If you pay close attention to 0:12, you can see anonymous.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: nickiknack on January 28, 2012, 11:54:15 am
How do these idiots NOT see that depicting a black president as the master of a slave ship filled with white children is incredibly offensive? Of all the possible imagery and metaphors they could have chose, THAT'S what they went with? Some pinhead media adviser sat in his office one day and suddenly thought, "Obama....black guy....SLAVES! That's the ticket!"

I mean, I get what Oxner is essentially trying to say (although I find him to be astoundingly disingenuous for blaming Obama for the debt, the bail-outs, and the plague of corporate welfare we are dealing with), but he honestly thought this was the best way to make his point? Slave imagery with a black president? Really?


(http://cdn.moxiebird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/really-seth-and-amy.gif)


This reminds me of this little gem
(http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/obama-white-slavery.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Smurfette Principle on January 28, 2012, 12:20:46 pm
Wow. To quote Joseph Welch, "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 28, 2012, 12:22:47 pm
If you pay close attention to 0:12, you can see anonymous.
Yeah I caught that too :P
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 28, 2012, 12:36:22 pm
How do these idiots NOT see that depicting a black president as the master of a slave ship filled with white children is incredibly offensive? Of all the possible imagery and metaphors they could have chose, THAT'S what they went with? Some pinhead media adviser sat in his office one day and suddenly thought, "Obama....black guy....SLAVES! That's the ticket!"

I mean, I get what Oxner is essentially trying to say (although I find him to be astoundingly disingenuous for blaming Obama for the debt, the bail-outs, and the plague of corporate welfare we are dealing with), but he honestly thought this was the best way to make his point? Slave imagery with a black president? Really?
At this point, you have to wonder if they're doing it on purpose.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 28, 2012, 03:43:03 pm
If you pay close attention to 0:12, you can see anonymous.
Yeah I caught that too :P

No, that's the Fawkes mask, which OWS and Anonymous have been using.

In either case, what the fuck is going on with this ad?  I hesitate to call the person who made it brain-dead, because that'd be an insult to zombies.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Kit Walker on January 28, 2012, 03:48:31 pm
...The slave driver driving the children screams at them to "think about the 99%". So we get this weird situation where the working class are being portrayed as being enslaved partially to themselves.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 28, 2012, 05:39:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1L1lj3XuK8
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: ironbite on January 28, 2012, 05:45:23 pm
A black man as captain of a slave ship....

Ironbite-wow.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Jodie on January 28, 2012, 05:57:52 pm
Where is that My Mind is Full of Fuck image when you need it? :U
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: rtvc2012 on January 28, 2012, 05:58:33 pm
...The slave driver driving the children screams at them to "think about the 99%". So we get this weird situation where the working class are being portrayed as being enslaved partially to themselves.
Don't you know that helping anyone BUT the richest 1% is SOCIALISM?
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 28, 2012, 06:01:18 pm
Where is that My Mind is Full of Fuck image when you need it? :U

Here you go:

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1wsx1R94S1qzmowao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Kit Walker on January 28, 2012, 07:01:29 pm
...The slave driver driving the children screams at them to "think about the 99%". So we get this weird situation where the working class are being portrayed as being enslaved partially to themselves.
Don't you know that helping anyone BUT the richest 1% is SOCIALISM?

But it also comes out against the bank bail outs...which would benefit the 1% pretty well too.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: jumpingjackflash on January 28, 2012, 07:18:29 pm
Pretty self explanatory

http://current.com/community/93637303_obama-depicted-as-head-of-slave-ship-in-controversial-gop-ad.htm (http://current.com/community/93637303_obama-depicted-as-head-of-slave-ship-in-controversial-gop-ad.htm)

(http://lolwut.com/layout/lolwut.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: DasFuchs on January 28, 2012, 07:56:14 pm
Oi, honestly, the whole Republican party seems to have gone batshit...must be the fallout left over from losing to a nig...er...black man
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: N. De Plume on January 28, 2012, 09:46:48 pm
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/7/25/44644b65-6ada-49a3-86f2-9b68a98820e8.jpg)

It is obvious this assclown is only targeting people that haven’t been paying the slightest bit of attention to the news of the last year, because that is the only way that could make any fuckin’ sense.

What an asshat!

My brain huuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrtssss!
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: largeham on January 29, 2012, 12:00:20 am
Really? Are these people that stupid? Or is it just pandering to racist fears of a black uprising?
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: booley on January 29, 2012, 12:26:16 am
How do these idiots NOT see that depicting a black president as the master of a slave ship filled with white children is incredibly offensive? Of all the possible imagery and metaphors they could have chose, THAT'S what they went with? Some pinhead media adviser sat in his office one day and suddenly thought, "Obama....black guy....SLAVES! That's the ticket!"

I mean, I get what Oxner is essentially trying to say (although I find him to be astoundingly disingenuous for blaming Obama for the debt, the bail-outs, and the plague of corporate welfare we are dealing with), but he honestly thought this was the best way to make his point? Slave imagery with a black president? Really?


(http://cdn.moxiebird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/really-seth-and-amy.gif)

Frankly I dont' think conservative sin general really grok how bad slavery and racism it engendered was and is.

And it probably doesn't help that there are black conservatives apparently willing to humor them if it helps the "cause"

So of course they would use that metaphor because they really do believe they are oppressed. And by oppressed I mean they aren't getting everything they want.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Normandy on January 29, 2012, 01:02:15 am
Well if that isn't totally backwards...
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: VirtualStranger on January 29, 2012, 01:41:38 am
Frankly I dont' think conservative sin general really grok how bad slavery and racism it engendered was and is.

What the hell are you saying here?
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 29, 2012, 01:58:12 am
At this point, you have to wonder if they're doing it on purpose.

Personally, I think they are. I wouldn't go so far as to accuse all the repubs of it, but I don't think the ones who are pulling this kind of shit are doing it by accident. Lets face it, in far too many places telling people that the niggers are going to take over and pay whitey back is a pretty compelling message. Even if they don't actually believe actual payback part, the fact that them darkies are getting uppity is galling enough to them.

The real question is do enough voters believe this, or is it doomed to fail? The sad thing is, I'm not sure what the answer is.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Scotsgit on January 29, 2012, 02:22:57 am
I'm just waiting for the usual drivel from the right-wingnuts of how black people actually were captaining slave ships and the slaves were happier, why there were black confederate soldiers....*fades to rage*
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: DasFuchs on January 29, 2012, 07:19:33 am
why there were black confederate soldiers....

Oh gods no, no no no no no no no no no no no....
I've already seen people talk about this issue and I've seen how stupid people get on it...no, I hope above all else that doesn't get dredged up into this


For those that don't know, there were black confederate regiments. They were forced into service and spent all their time doing manual labor (like slaves) because their leaders feared they would swap sides if lead into battle...like the Union treated blacks in the army that much better (operation meat shields anyone?)
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: N. De Plume on January 29, 2012, 10:21:36 am
Frankly I dont' think conservative sin general really grok how bad slavery and racism it engendered was and is.

What the hell are you saying here?
That they just don’t get it. “Grok” == “Understand”
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 29, 2012, 10:58:20 am
Frankly I dont' think conservative sin general really grok how bad slavery and racism it engendered was and is.

What the hell are you saying here?
That they just don’t get it. “Grok” == “Understand”
Also, just in case: conservative sin general = conservatives in general.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: armandtanzarian on January 29, 2012, 10:59:20 am
Frankly I dont' think conservative sin general really grok how bad slavery and racism it engendered was and is.

What the hell are you saying here?
That they just don’t get it. “Grok” == “Understand”
Not just that. There's a degree of whitewashing and downplaying in the social conservative circles that leads to dumb shit like this. Or watermelons on the White House lawn (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/25/white-house-watermelon-em_n_169933.html). Sometimes ignorance plays a part but a lot of it is frankly an inexcusable level of selective knowledge.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 29, 2012, 11:51:22 am
(http://shatteredtears.com/fulloffuck.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: booley on January 29, 2012, 11:53:29 am
Frankly I dont' think conservatives in general really grok how bad slavery and racism it engendered was and is.

What the hell are you saying here?

Quote
Grok: .... to understand intuitively or by empathy; to establish rapport with" and "to empathise or communicate sympathetically (with);

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

There's being told something and maybe getting it intellectually.

And there's having a deep understanding of it.  The two are not the same.

To many conservatives, slavery was just this thing that happened in the past, with few to no consequences beyond providing Liberals something to complain about.  They don't see a connection between it and racism, or how it has affected our history beyond 1865 or the damage it did to generations.  Intellectually they know slavery happened and racism exists but they don't see the logical consequences of that fact.

So slavery, like other forms of social injustice and oppression is just this political football, a way to score rhetorical points and evoke an emotional reaction.  They really don't understand this as offensive and beyond the pale.

Admittedly that is a rather generous interpretation.

It's also possible they simply don't' give a fuck if they look like assholes.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: N. De Plume on January 29, 2012, 12:39:36 pm
… Far better explanation than I could have made …
Yeah. All that. Grok is sure a useful word, isn’t it?

Quote
Admittedly that is a rather generous interpretation.

It's also possible they simply don't' give a fuck if they look like assholes.
I really don’t know which would be worse.
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 29, 2012, 04:15:40 pm
Scuse me, Wykked Wytch, but I'm gonna borrow this, if'n ya don't mind...

(http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/14156793/images/1299510560622.jpg)
Title: Re: New Ad depicts Obama as Slave ship Captain
Post by: Scotsgit on January 30, 2012, 12:47:06 am
why there were black confederate soldiers....

Oh gods no, no no no no no no no no no no no....
I've already seen people talk about this issue and I've seen how stupid people get on it...no, I hope above all else that doesn't get dredged up into this


For those that don't know, there were black confederate regiments. They were forced into service and spent all their time doing manual labor (like slaves) because their leaders feared they would swap sides if lead into battle...like the Union treated blacks in the army that much better (operation meat shields anyone?)

The way to shut them up is to point out that in both the Revolutionary War and the war of 1812, freed slaves fought on the British side.