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Title: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 02, 2012, 04:53:07 pm
Republican propagandist journalist Matt Drudge made a promise (https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/253208624489459713) via Twitter that there will be a "curious tape dropping" tonight which will "ignite accusations of racism" from both sides. The Drudge Report website (http://www.drudgereport.com/) says this about the forthcoming tape:

"CAMPAIGN DRAMA: VIDEO MADE 6 YEARS AGO SURFACES ON EVE OF FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE... DEVELOPING TONIGHT..."

Sounds impressive, no? Wonder what it is. Perhaps it's the mythical "Khalidi tape" that Breitbart.com is offering (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/20/Reward-100000-for-Khalidi-Tape) a $100,000 reward for? Or maybe it's a secret tape of Obama actually palling around with terrorists (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-04-palin-obama_N.htm)?

Well one thing's for certain, though: it certainly won't be conservatives making a mountain out of a molehill like they did with the Derrick Bell video (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/breitbartcoms-massive-barack-obama-derrick-bell-video-fail/254213/#) or the wealth redistribution sound byte (http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/the-redistribution-of-wealth/). No, this is gonna be HUGE this time. Just you wait.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Dakota Bob on October 02, 2012, 05:26:34 pm
I might need to move forward my plans for total gay muslim socialist domination, these guys are getting dangerously close to the truth.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Random Gal on October 02, 2012, 05:30:26 pm
OH GOOD GOD.

This is another Swift Boat thing, isn't it? Please not again.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Fpqxz on October 02, 2012, 06:13:29 pm
I'll believe it when I see it.

This is more guilt by association stuff, the same shit that Andrew Breitbart trafficked in while he was alive.

And considering that this alleged video hasn't been found by anyone yet, even though there has been a reward for it for a while now, I have to wonder if it even exists.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 02, 2012, 06:22:34 pm
Why won't people (particularly journalists) just admit to holding opinions? "Tonight I will release something I believe shows Obama to be a racist". It will sure 'ignite accusations of racism'*- from you. Admit it.

* Racism is flammable apparently.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 02, 2012, 06:26:26 pm
* Racism is flammable apparently.
No kidding:
(http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp297/USAGENT1/klansman-on-fire.jpg)
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 02, 2012, 07:23:43 pm
From Drudge:
(http://www.drudgereport.com/ors.jpg)
TONIGHT: OBAMA'S OTHER RACE SPEECH
(http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif)
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: niam2023 on October 02, 2012, 07:25:23 pm
Dakota Bob, we need to have the Omniscient Council of Vagueness meet...NOW.

This was so not as planned. We must adapt.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: nickiknack on October 02, 2012, 07:37:41 pm
Drudge is soooo 90's...question, does Drudge still wear that stupid ass 1940's reporter get up, with the bow tie and fedora??
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: ironbite on October 02, 2012, 08:12:42 pm
So is this video gonna this year's video that the Right uses to try and sink Obama?

Ironbite-didn't work last time not gonna work this time.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 02, 2012, 08:56:29 pm
UPDATE:

Buzzfeed already found the video Drudge was referring to. Selections of it will be aired on Sean Hannity's program at 9 tonight. Here it is courtesy of The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/this-might-be-the-obama-video-about-race-the-internet-is-buzzing-about/263172/):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofbUK85bnwY

The transcript is in the link above and it's just as innocuous as you think it is. Hell, it's been on YouTube out in the open since 2007.

In fact, some of what he says works directly AGAINST the right-wing talking points:

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A few weeks ago, I attended a service at First A.M.E. Church in Los Angeles to commemorate the 15th anniversary of the LA Riots. After a jury acquitted 4 police officers of beating Rodney King-a beating that was filmed and flashed around the world- Los Angeles erupted. I remember the sense of despair and powerlessness in watching one of America's greatest cities engulfed in flames.
 
But in the middle of that desperate time, there was a miracle: a baby born with a bullet in its arm. We need to hear about these miracles in these desperate times because they are the blessings that can unite us when some in the world try to drive a wedge between our common humanity and deep, abiding faith. And this story, too, starts with a baby.
 
We learned about this child from a doctor named Andy Moosa. He was working the afternoon shift on April 30 at St. Francis Medical Center in Lynwood as the second day of violence was exploding in the streets.
 
He told us about a pregnant woman who had been wearing a white dress. She was in Compton and on her way to the supermarket. Where the bullet came from nobody knew. Her sister-in-law noticed a red spot in the middle of her white dress and said that I think you've been shot. The bullet had gone in, but it had not exited. The doctor described the ultrasound and how he realized that the bullet was in the baby. The doctor said, "We could tell it was lodged in one of the upper limbs. We needed to get this baby out so we were in the delivery room."
 
And here's the thing: the baby looked great. Except for the swelling in the right elbow in the fleshy part, it hadn't even fractured a bone. The bullet had lodged in the soft tissue in the muscle. By God's grace, the baby was fine. It was breathing and crying and kicking. They removed the bullet, stitched up the baby's arm, and everything was fine. The doctor went on to say that there's always going to be a scar to remind that child how quickly she came into the world in very unusual circumstances.

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It was also there - at Trinity United Church of Christ on the South Side of Chicago - that I met Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., who took me on another journey and introduced me to a man named Jesus Christ. It was the best education I ever had. At Trinity and working in the South Side, I learned that when church folks come together, they can achieve extraordinary things.

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And when it comes to faith, we've been told that all that matters is what divides us - Evangelicals from Mainline Protestants, the Black church from the White church, Catholics from Protestants from Muslims from Jews.

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We can diminish poverty if we approach it in two ways: by taking mutual responsibility for each other as a society, and also by asking for some more individual responsibility to strengthen our families.
 
If we want to stop the cycle of poverty, then we need to start with our families.
 
We need to start supporting parents with young children. There is a pioneering Nurse-Family Partnership program right now that offers home visits by trained registered nurses to low-income mothers and mothers-to-be. They learn how to care for themselves before the baby is born and what to do after. It's common sense to reach out to a young mother. Teach her about changing the baby. Help her understand what all that crying means, and when to get vaccines and check-ups.
 
This program saves money. It raises healthy babies and creates better parents. It reduced childhood injuries and unintended pregnancies, increased father involvement and women's employment, reduced use of welfare and food stamps, and increased children's school readiness. And it produced more than $28,000 in net savings for every high-risk family enrolled in the program.
 
This works and I will expand the Nurse-Family Partnership to provide at-home nurse visits for up to 570,000 first-time mothers each year. We can do this. Our God is big enough for that.

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We know that we have to invest in transitional jobs too. When there are people who are homeless, veterans struggling with post-traumatic stress disorder from this war in Iraq, and thousands of children aging out of foster care, we can't expect them to have all the skills they need for work. They may need help with basic skills-how to show up to work on time, wear the right clothes, and act appropriately in an office. We have to help them get there. That's why I have called for $50 million to begin innovative new job training and workforce development programs.

This sounds more Christ-like than anything the right ever says...
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Saturn500 on October 02, 2012, 09:19:05 pm
Oh, how cute, Faux Noise is saying it's about "class warfare"!
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 02, 2012, 09:23:01 pm
Oh, how cute, Faux Noise is saying it's about "class warfare"!
I'm depending on you and other posters to say what Fox is up to, since I have no television...
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 02, 2012, 11:06:59 pm
Dakota Bob, we need to have the Omniscient Council of Vagueness meet...NOW.

This was so not as planned. We must adapt.

(http://www.nervarchives.com/images/icon.200x150.seele.jpg)

(http://www.nervarchives.com/images/icon.200x150.seele2.jpg)

Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 03, 2012, 12:26:20 am
How much do those monoliths cost?
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on October 03, 2012, 01:25:26 am
Oh, how cute, Faux Noise is saying it's about "class warfare"!

How the fuck?  Hell, most of these sound like something I might hear out of a Republican.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Dakota Bob on October 03, 2012, 02:03:51 am
Wait, that was it? Stand down people, we're safe.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Fpqxz on October 03, 2012, 06:11:06 am
After reading the transcript, I didn't really see anything all that objectionable.

In fact, it was pretty good, as far as political speeches go.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Distind on October 03, 2012, 06:23:32 am
How much do those monoliths cost?
26 episodes of wangst.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 03, 2012, 07:50:57 am
Hey I like Eva also do you have a link to a transcript
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Askold on October 03, 2012, 08:30:04 am
a) This is now in the Finnish news as well. (Some part of me wonders, why?)

b) Obama sure talks a lot about god and faith. Considering all the claims about Obama being atheist/muslim/whatever it makes me wonder how often he should be talking about god to please those people. And concidering the end, the whole speech seems to be a "take that" to the people who claim that the democrats are "godless."

(Also, is it normal in USA that a politician brings up god in every other sentence he says?)

c) Some of the commenters (and the article) in Helsingin Sanomat claims that Obama said that goverment racism was behind the poor management of Katrina clean up... Except that the part where he talks about it is completely opposite of that claim:

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Look at what happened in New Orleans and along the Gulf Coast when Katrina hit. People ask me whether I thought race was the reason the response was so slow. I said, "No. This Administration was colorblind in its incompetence." But everyone here knows the disaster and the poverty happened long before that hurricane hit. All the hurricane did was make bare what we ignore each and every day which is that there are whole sets of communities that are impoverished, that don't have meaningful opportunity, that don't have hope and they are forgotten. This disaster was a powerful metaphor for what's gone on for generations.

d)Nice speech. Other than praising god all the time the subject seems to be helping the poor. Seems like a nice sentiment. Can't see how anyone could use it against him.

...Oh wait, US politics.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: armandtanzarian on October 03, 2012, 08:47:46 am
Slate destroys the stupid "release" well enough here.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/10/02/_.html

In a nutshell:
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So the MSM didn't ignore the Hampton speech. They didn't find it controversial, and they didn't treat it like a controversy -- not Obama references to "black folks," not Obama's occasional switched-up dialect.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 03, 2012, 08:59:41 am
(Also, is it normal in USA that a politician brings up god in every other sentence he says?)
Oh yeah. Most politicians can't make it two sentences without talking about their boyfriend, Jesus.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: rookie on October 03, 2012, 09:10:30 am
After reading the transcript, I didn't really see anything all that objectionable.

In fact, it was pretty good, as far as political speeches go.

Depends on how they edit it. Remember, Fox News.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 03, 2012, 09:33:42 am
Gawker assembled (http://gawker.com/5948467/here-are-the-worst-moments-from-foxs-attempt-to-stir-up-controversy-with-five+year+old-obama-video) the worst moments of Hannity's show last night.

I love how the one guy labels Obama a black militant. I'm more of a black militant than Obama. And I'm white. And a rabbit. Rawr.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on October 03, 2012, 09:38:21 am
Oh, how cute, Faux Noise is saying it's about "class warfare"!

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... there are people who are homeless...

See, he's talking about poor people - next it will be Death Panels ran by ACORN and gay Mohammad Hitler, damned Stalinist!
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Qlockworkcanary on October 03, 2012, 09:46:58 am
Maddow has a good piece on this:

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/03/14198525-the-rights-desperate-display?lite

The GOP: Bizarro much?
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: nickiknack on October 03, 2012, 12:19:08 pm
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Look at what happened in New Orleans and along the Gulf Coast when Katrina hit. People ask me whether I thought race was the reason the response was so slow. I said, "No. This Administration was colorblind in its incompetence." But everyone here knows the disaster and the poverty happened long before that hurricane hit. All the hurricane did was make bare what we ignore each and every day which is that there are whole sets of communities that are impoverished, that don't have meaningful opportunity, that don't have hope and they are forgotten. This disaster was a powerful metaphor for what's gone on for generations.

d)Nice speech. Other than praising god all the time the subject seems to be helping the poor. Seems like a nice sentiment. Can't see how anyone could use it against him.

...Oh wait, US politics.

Exactly, remember in America helping the poor is the equivalant of worshipping Satan.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: shykid on October 03, 2012, 04:12:26 pm
Quote from: Mitt Romney
Half of the country is a bunch of entitled moochers. They have the nerve to believe that they shouldn't have to work three jobs just to be able to afford food and shelter while people like me are filthy rich because we were born into a life of wealth and privilege without working for a dime of it.

Not class warfare.

Quote from: Barack Obama
Mothers and babies should have access to medical care and information from qualified professionals.

Class warfare.

Thanks, FOX News! Without you, my pesky triple-digit IQ and would have conned me into thinking it was the other way around.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: niam2023 on October 03, 2012, 06:01:24 pm
Agreed. False alarm.

I...wonder some times. These guys...do they really think Obama showing more actual, compassionate Christian values than themselves would be harmful?

What a laugh.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 03, 2012, 06:21:20 pm
Sucker Carlson is mad (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/daily-caller-obama-video-media.php) that everyone thinks this is old news.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Damen on October 03, 2012, 07:04:39 pm
Speaking of Tucker Carlson; remember back when Jon Stewart went on his show and blasted him so bad CNN cancelled it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: nickiknack on October 03, 2012, 07:13:15 pm
I can never forget that, it's a classic smackdown.
Title: Re: New Obama Video to Surface?
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on October 03, 2012, 08:05:32 pm
Speaking of Tucker Carlson; remember back when Jon Stewart went on his show and blasted him so bad CNN cancelled it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
"You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show."

Beautiful.