Reasons to hate PETA

[TheUnknown]

But they're all too happy to use videos of live dog skinning to solicit donations.

There was a case where the Mercy for Animals organization allegedly encouraged an undercover employee to take part in abusing cows in order to gain footage.  I've seen a disgusting number of people defend this kind of exploitation by saying it's necessary to inform people about their cause, and that if they don't just stand by and watch abuse happen, nothing will get done anyway, because police don't care about animals.  That's not even going into how much footage they post to the public may be edited or doctored.

[gyeonghwa]

What especially pisses me off is the people who jump on the PETA bandwagon.  They go vegan because their favorite musician/actor/whatever did.  Think for your damn selves, morons.

Those are privileged assholes. Oh it's easy for them to go vegan because some celebrity is, but for the most of us, being vegan is expensive and even potentially dangerous to our health.

Not to say that a person shouldn't be vegan, but the need to respect the reason why other people can't.

[largeham]

I don't really have a problem with breaking the law, but randomly bombing shit isn't going to change much.

You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship- some anarchist

[Fpqxz]

I don't really have a problem with breaking the law, but randomly bombing shit isn't going to change much.

You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship- some anarchist

The funny thing about what you said is that while anarchists learned this lesson the hard way in the early 20th century, our own government has yet to understand this.

You know, hearts and minds, and all that.  </derail>

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

As obnoxious as PETA are, compared to the hard (and psychotic) edge of the Animal Rights movement-like Negotiation is Over and the Animal Liberation Front...lets just say there are even worse people in the ARA movement!

[shykid]

Yep. PETA are basically "ALF Lite."

More attention needs to be given to sane animal-welfare organizations like the *SPCAs. It pisses me off that PETA draws attention away from them and even gives them a bad rep with their nonconstructive and extremist bullshit.

Also, anyone who knows me knows that I am a total slave to my cat, not vice versa.

[kefkaownsall]

I will say though that remember PETA gives money to the ALF

[DasFuchs]

I have 95 good reasons to hate PETA
"Washington, DC — Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. "

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

[shykid]

CCF is a "non-profit" shill for the tobacco, alcohol and fast food industries, but in this particular case, nothing they've presented is inaccurate or distorted, and they definitely have the high ground compared to PETA.

[agentCDE]

It really says a lot when tobacco shills can claim the moral high ground in this.

[TheUnknown]

CCF is a "non-profit" shill for the tobacco, alcohol and fast food industries, but in this particular case, nothing they've presented is inaccurate or distorted, and they definitely have the high ground compared to PETA.

This is why I tend to not like this source when arguing with PETA members, because they will point that out in order to invalidate the information that's presented.  It's incredibly stupid that they do, because it leaves the impression that PETA and others like it are completely unbiased without an agenda of their own.

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

As far as the Holocaust comparison, people who fled Nazi persecution have also made that connection. That's probably why I don't find it as offensive as many others do.

EDIT: In fairness I should make an important note that the mass slaughter of non-human animals is not based on animus toward a particular outgroup as was the case with Nazi Germany, but out of what is perceived to be human necessity. (I say perceived to be because not all human beings choose to live their lives as omnivores although some people cannot afford the luxury of choosing to be vegetarian or vegan. If I were in a Third World country during a famine I'd probaby be in survival mode, more or less.)

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

I don't really have a problem with breaking the law, but randomly bombing shit isn't going to change much.

You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship- some anarchist

As far as I'm concerned, breaking the law is acceptable if the law or practice being upheld is immoral (e.g. segregation). Then again I also vaguely remember a similar conversation early in this forum's history...Good tymes.

[Lt. Fred]

I have 95 good reasons to hate PETA
"Washington, DC — Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. "

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Why?

[TheUnknown]

As far as the Holocaust comparison, people who fled Nazi persecution have also made that connection. That's probably why I don't find it as offensive as many others do.

EDIT: In fairness I should make an important note that the mass slaughter of non-human animals is not based on animus toward a particular outgroup as was the case with Nazi Germany, but out of what is perceived to be human necessity. (I say perceived to be because not all human beings choose to live their lives as omnivores although some people cannot afford the luxury of choosing to be vegetarian or vegan. If I were in a Third World country during a famine I'd probaby be in survival mode, more or less.)

My problem with it is that while they made this campaign, they support BSL, which (ideologically speaking) is more comparable to the Holocaust than the chickens are.