terrorist attack in paris

[pyro]

Thanks for the links. Forumites: the live footage reporter is commenting in English and French. This is looking like France's 9/11 & 7/7. My online news service is over capacity and not working.

And we all thought it was a good day cuz Jihadi John got fragged.

Looks like we ought to add 11/13 to that list.

Am I the only one who's disappointed they didn't do it four days earlier. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's disappointed they did it at all.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/one-day-later-anonymous-already-takes-down-3-824-pro-isis-twitter-accounts-496258.shtml

...Wow. Anonymous is doing much better than I thought.

PSA: At least one member of FQA (myself, I can't speak for abortions anyone else), as a matter of principle, does not support vigilante justice. Punishment needs to go through a trail.

Sure, when it hits the target it's faster, but that's also true of wildly shooting a gun. Vigilante justice too easily hits the wrong target. It needs to aim, and that means going through the long slog of making sure the suspect is actually guilty.


Edit: fix my typo

[Even Then]

I can't speak for abortions else

This is the best typo, oh my god

[guizonde]

i can't say i support anonymous. they did good things, they did bad things. most of the time, they're basement-dwellers who get a kick out of being mean to people. i'll call for the stopped clock argument in their case when they target acceptable targets (cp-rings, daesh, other horrible things), and i'll call them douchecanoes when they go after victims (like stalking a girl, doxxing people, ruining individual lives).

as a rule, i tend to flip-flop on vigilante justice, due to the fact it's morally wrong but the schadenfreude is immense. for example, khadafi's death was karmic. a dictator getting fucked over by mob justice? that's the definition of poetic justice. it may be wrong (morally), but i laughed. the same mob chopping the nuts off a presumed rapist because he's from another tribe? yeah, nope. then again, in one case the proof is in the pudding regarding culpability, in the other case all bets are off.

[Askold]

PSA: At least one member of FQA (myself, I can't speak for abortions else), as a matter of principle, does not support vigilante justice. Punishment needs to go through a trail.

Sure, when it hits the target it's faster, but that's also true of wildly shooting a gun. Vigilante justice too easily hits the wrong target. It needs to aim, and that means going through the long slog of making sure the suspect is actually guilty.

If we are talking about capturing people and punishing them then I definitely agree with you. Finnish media brought up the question if police should be allowed do the same as Anonymous is doing now (hacking people's computers and spying on them without court orders that is) and the thought terrifies me. Even worse Finnish government has suggested giving the police more power to spy on people in the name of anti-terrorism. Likewise if some vigilantees were going around killing suspected DAESH members I would not support it. Not even if they actually happened to be real terrorists, things like this need to be done by legal means.

...Meanwhile, what Anonymous is doing is taking down DAESH web profiles and exposing them and I don't mind this.

[pyro]

...Meanwhile, what Anonymous is doing is taking down DAESH web profiles and exposing them and I don't mind this.

I assume they're doing that through more covert means than clicking the Report button and looking through the backlog for personally identifying information (the article doesn't actually say how they're doing it).

As for whether the police should be able to do what Anonymous is doing, neither of them should be able to pull this crap. Death to anyone who doesn't use prepared SQL statements! A severe beating to anyone who writes security-critical code in C! And death by severe beating to anyone who logs in through a link they got in an email! And even worse for anyone who stores passwords in plain text.

[guizonde]

Death to anyone who doesn't use prepared SQL statements! A severe beating to anyone who writes security-critical code in C! And death by severe beating to anyone who logs in through a link they got in an email! And even worse for anyone who stores passwords in plain text.

boooooooooooooooooring. death by anal sex with varied houseplants (of the toxic and non-toxic varieties). forced ingurgitation of low-quality olive oil. electrostimulation of the eardrums. death by pants filled with hornet nests.

the death penalty is too boring, make it cruel and unusual punishment for extra pizzazz.

[Meshakhad]

President Hollande has said an awesome thing:

"France will respond by simply being France"

(source: CNN News Ticker)

[rookie]

President Hollande has said an awesome thing:

"France will respond by simply being France"

(source: CNN News Ticker)

I wish to hell Bush Jr. had said the same thing 14 years ago rather than the frothing at the mouth response he gave.

[guizonde]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n74HBrrFnIc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n74HBrrFnIc</a>

for your sake, don't read the comments. i beseech you.

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

Bloody awful. All I got right now.