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Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« on: May 09, 2012, 02:40:44 pm »
Here's an article pointing out the idiocy of how when a woman is in a position of fame or power, 90% of the media is about "how she looks" or "what was she wearing."

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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 02:53:08 pm »
Your link is borked.

That said, Cait actually posted a YouTube video on this topic a little while ago.

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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 02:55:19 pm »
This sort of thing is just as bad as would be outrage about a woman not wearing a burqa.

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On Monday, the front and center picture on Drudge Report was Hillary Clinton's bespectacled face without makeup, because apparently we've talked about every other possible topic in the world. The picture of Clinton's face, which Matt Drudge helpfully tagged "Au Naturel," features the smiling Secretary of State's countenance naked but for black framed glasses and red lipstick.

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Fox echoed Matt Drudge's triumphant smugness, asking in their headline if Hillary "forgot" her makeup, as though she'd been caught peeing her pants onstage or flashing her crotch at paparazzi as she got out of a limo.

Putting politics on the same level as vapid celebrity gossip. You stay classy, FOX and Drudge.

And is this literally the worst the right-wing noise machine can come up with? A woman without makeup, the horror! This only goes to show how they can't find anything to legitimately fault this administration for (except not being progressive enough, and you know they sure as hell wouldn't do that). Personally, I think Mrs. Clinton looks better without it, anyways. Still, if she had her "flaws" fixed, these people would gossip about it and shame her for having plastic surgery, just like they do Nancy Pelosi.

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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 05:40:13 pm »
These women are trying to run a country, not competing on America's Next Top Model. Who cares what they put on their faces?

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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 05:42:48 pm »
People apparently.

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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 06:24:33 pm »
Just wondering, do male politicians wear makeup? I would expect all celebrities to in public.
I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 07:03:18 pm »
These women are trying to run a country, not competing on America's Next Top Model. Who cares what they put on their faces?
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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 07:24:54 pm »
^^ Let's be fair. There are just as many women out there who are perpetuating this kind of shallow, sexist crap. It's a societal flaw, not just an issue caused by men.

As for the article:

I can't count the number of times I've been engaged with a debate with someone online, only to have them say something to the effect of, "I bet you're fat/ugly!" when they find out that I'm female. It really does seem to be a perceived trump card for debating against women.

Then we have images like this:



(Funny how all of the conservative shots are publicity stills, with professionally applied makeup, air-brushing, etc., while the liberal ones are candid shots of women making awkward faces -- but that's beside the point.)
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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 07:27:38 pm »
We can do the same thing too.

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I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 07:28:37 pm »
Cool story, bro.

Edit: We can, but let's not.

Edit 2: Seriously, dude, you're completely missing the point. And it's not any better when you do it to men.

Funny.
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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2012, 08:03:27 pm »






Liberal commentator Imogen Lloyd Webber puts them all to shame.



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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2012, 08:08:48 pm »
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Liberal commentator Imogen Lloyd Webber puts them all to shame.

Why, is she smarter? Cuz Clinton and Pelosi managed to hold the highest political positions for a woman in America.

She's British, so does Liberal mean libertarian?
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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2012, 08:35:50 pm »
The feminism thing is interesting and important, but I can't think of anything interesting to say. Other than to add that my Prime Minister, who is a red-headed female with a mildly unusual accent, has for that reason alone suffered severe criticism. Notably from several female 'journalists'.

I will note that men get a similar, though not equivalent, set of standards applied to them by the media. "Would you like a beer with them" (your answer should be "who's paying", but I digress). It doesn't matter who looks better or who is a nicer person. It doesn't matter that your head of state is an asshole in private, like Kevin Rudd. The only thing that matters is policy. Any journalist who ever criticises a politician for anything other than policy does not deserve the name.

In the present media climate, it's probably bad practice to even mention anything other than policy.
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Re: Women Without Make-Up... Gasp!
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2012, 09:01:33 pm »
That image macro always struck me as more honest than it intended, as it essentially proclaims that conservatives find no value in women outside of their physical appearance.

"Haha, look at these liberals letting women into power due to their qualifications rather than their looks!"

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