Catholic Archdiocese reduce teens to anger and tears

[Smurfette Principle]

Reminds me of Confirmation class. I used to cry just by going to Confession.

[mice34]

Good for the kids. Things like that almost make me have faith in humanity again.

[RavynousHunter]

Oi, Catholics...remember what the vikings did to your people when they pissed them off.  It can happen again.

TO RAGNAROK!

[N. De Plume]

That article says incest is a mortal sin. Lot was considered a good person and so were many others. Fucking sins, how do they work?

Even Catholocism allows for the last-minute-forgiveness-of-horrible-evil.

Of course, a compassionate deity would recognize that Lot was raped by his daughters, so there would be nothing to forgive.

[MadCatTLX]

That article says incest is a mortal sin. Lot was considered a good person and so were many others. Fucking sins, how do they work?

Even Catholocism allows for the last-minute-forgiveness-of-horrible-evil.

Of course, a compassionate deity would recognize that Lot was raped by his daughters, so there would be nothing to forgive.

Lot also offered his daughters up to be raped by a crowd, and he was still considered a good person.

[N. De Plume]

That article says incest is a mortal sin. Lot was considered a good person and so were many others. Fucking sins, how do they work?

Even Catholocism allows for the last-minute-forgiveness-of-horrible-evil.

Of course, a compassionate deity would recognize that Lot was raped by his daughters, so there would be nothing to forgive.

Lot also offered his daughters up to be raped by a crowd, and he was still considered a good person.

Hey, you only brought up the incest.

[MadCatTLX]

That article says incest is a mortal sin. Lot was considered a good person and so were many others. Fucking sins, how do they work?

Even Catholocism allows for the last-minute-forgiveness-of-horrible-evil.

Of course, a compassionate deity would recognize that Lot was raped by his daughters, so there would be nothing to forgive.

Lot also offered his daughters up to be raped by a crowd, and he was still considered a good person.

Hey, you only brought up the incest.

I thought I mentioned more in my post. He's still a horrible person. I don't remember them of the top of my head, but aren't there quite a few examples of incest in the bible by "good people"?

[N. De Plume]

Only other sanctioned incest I am aware of is the implied incest near the Adam and Eve end of the family tree. By Leviticus, the act is outright condemned.

Anyway, there is still the whole, “easily forgiven” thread of things.

[SkyTrekTower]

Wow, I feel really bad for the people that had to go there.  Even with the church's policies regarding gays and pre-marital sex, there are certainly better ways to get your point across without driving people to tears.

My high school had us go to a similar event.  Although, my theology teacher said something along the lines of "Wow, that was a lot of BS" when we got back(the assembly began during my theology class, but was for the entire school at the same time/obvious), as the speakers said stuff like condoms don't work, cohabitation doubles the divorce rate, etc.  Even if what they said was true, the speakers also relied on a lot of logical fallacies in regards to what they said about condoms, divorce, porn, cohabitation, etc.  The most logical speakers were some nuns who pretty much said abortion was bad, and that even though it is an embryo, it is still life, etc.  Also, like it appears the speakers at this school did, some of those at my school(as well as what my school's administration would sometimes do) talked about how all that matters when voting is ending abortion and making sure gays can't be married.

[N. De Plume]

Also, like it appears the speakers at this school did, some of those at my school(as well as what my school's administration would sometimes do) talked about how all that matters when voting is ending abortion and making sure gays can't be married.

Yep, because the economy, foreign policy, infrastructure, immigration, and every other fuckin’ thing the government has to take care of will just take care of themselves.

[Vypernight]

So disagreeing with assholes who are attempting to reduce teends to tears = disrespect?  Try that around any of my gay or lesbian friends and I'll Show You some God-damned Disrespect!

And that's what I mean when I say Catholic fundies are manipulative bastards.  They are purity and jerk sues abuse people using sugary malice.  They appear as the "good moral Catholics" while making the kids or those they are abusing feel like dirty rotten sinners.  The kids can't voice any complaints or objections without being seen as "disrespectful.  After all, these adults are "devoting their time" to teach these kids about marriage. 

How do I know this?  I was raised Catholic and some of the people I went to church with were very good at this.  They are very good at blowing any offense out of proportion to make themselves look like the victim.  Simple things kids do can earn you lectures.  Non Catholics and even non religious types are good at this too, but Catholics are skilled at this.  They don't call it Catholic guilt for nothing!

I must have been spoiled because the Catholic school I went to was nothing like this.  The nuns were actually caring and compassionate instead of scary, and the church itself was filled with people who wanted you there.

Still, if idiots like those who spoke at that school had showed up, disrespect wouldn't begin to desribe my reaction. 

[Xotan]

At every opportunity the Catholic Church should be forcefully reminded of its criminal complicity in the abuse of children; of its shielding of the perpetratiors of the abuse; of being an accessory before and after the fact.

It has no right to preach morality to anyone.  It is totally disreputable and should be shunned.

[RavynousHunter]

Xotan, are you saying we should excommunicate the Pope?

[TheL]

Xotan, are you saying we should excommunicate the Pope?

FUCK yes.

I wanted that South American guy to be pope anyway.

[N. De Plume]

Xotan, are you saying we should excommunicate the Pope?

Whether or not Xotan is saying it, I’ll get behind that idea.