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Religion is regarded by the common man as true, by the wise man as false, and by the powerful man as useful
Yeah, if the pagans are so smart, why did Jesus invade Pagan-land on the back of a dragon and kill them all!
Quote from: Second Coming of Madman on September 04, 2014, 08:28:44 pmQuote from: Cataclysm on September 04, 2014, 06:57:33 pmQuote from: Sylvana on September 04, 2014, 02:52:01 amI think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered. So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?
Quote from: Cataclysm on September 04, 2014, 06:57:33 pmQuote from: Sylvana on September 04, 2014, 02:52:01 amI think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered.
Quote from: Sylvana on September 04, 2014, 02:52:01 amI think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
Toddlers get too much exercise, they wouldn't make good veal.
Quote from: askold on September 05, 2014, 01:04:55 amQuote from: Second Coming of Madman on September 04, 2014, 08:28:44 pmQuote from: Cataclysm on September 04, 2014, 06:57:33 pmQuote from: Sylvana on September 04, 2014, 02:52:01 amI think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered. So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?Conditions as laid, Japan kept it's conquered nations. This would be a violation of the Four Freedoms, in particular "Freedom from fear". Would you let Austria continue to be in the hands of Germany?
: a formal discussion between people who are trying to reach an agreement : an act of negotiatingSynonyms accommodation, compromise, give-and-take, concession
No matter what happens, no matter what my last words may end up being, I want everyone to claim that they were: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."
Aww, you guys rock. I feel the love... and the pitchforks and torches. Tingly!
Life for the sake of life means nothing.
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Quote from: Ultimate Paragon on September 07, 2014, 12:37:46 amI've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually. And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.