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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2595 on: July 06, 2013, 02:18:53 am »
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2596 on: July 06, 2013, 02:18:57 pm »
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2598 on: July 06, 2013, 08:21:18 pm »

The headphones strike me as somewhat of a race comment, because otherwise, why would he have them, and why those specific ones?
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2599 on: July 06, 2013, 09:32:21 pm »




As hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.

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« Reply #2600 on: July 06, 2013, 09:44:12 pm »




As hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2601 on: July 06, 2013, 10:47:14 pm »


The words are okay, how Obama is drawn (with Beats by Dre) is not. Hrm... Can't win 'em all.

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« Reply #2602 on: July 06, 2013, 11:10:58 pm »
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.

He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2603 on: July 06, 2013, 11:19:34 pm »
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.

He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.
He was likely the exception to the rule, to be honest. However, literally any other politician, I would be really suspicious if they had no scandals. At least with JFK, we had enough scandals to make tons of books about, so we knew when he did something good, it wasn't made up, because he'd screw that up, too. I'd rather have scandals, because it shows me that our leader isn't perfect. If our leader looks perfect (and Carter did not, due to being bad at it), something's fishy.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2604 on: July 07, 2013, 12:14:05 am »
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!

About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/

Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2605 on: July 07, 2013, 12:22:33 am »
it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collection

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2606 on: July 07, 2013, 12:29:40 am »
it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collection
I agree. While his politics may not match with ours, his actions are something we can celebrate. Basically, it doesn't matter why you do something, it matters that you did it. If a scientists cured cancer for the fame, power and money, I'd still support him, because he did a heroic act, even if it was for evil reasons.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2607 on: July 07, 2013, 12:48:09 am »
not the best analogy since I've seen many a sci fi distopya where someone invents a cure then enslaves us all

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #2608 on: July 07, 2013, 01:08:27 am »
not the best analogy since I've seen many a sci fi distopya where someone invents a cure then enslaves us all
Enslaving people is an evil action, not an evil motive. If they invented it but got shot to death before getting to the enslaving, or even tried and were killed before they had a chance to do anything, I'd still respect them.
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« Reply #2609 on: July 07, 2013, 06:15:37 am »
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As hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

Clinton's 'scandals' were hardly his fault, since they were either fabricated or trivial and irrelevant. This is reflected in his job approval rating. People don't like corruption, "scandals" are neither here nor there. Nixon was hated because he tried (and succeeded) at stealing an election, not because he was accused of stealing an election. This is something we'll see in the next few months with Obama, people with brains will gradually realise they've been sold a bridge by Republican politicians.

I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.

He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.

Carter was a pretty effective politician at the state level and in his first Presidential run. He dispatched Ford fairly comprehensively, in 1976. Ronald Reagan- or rather, the PR staff that invented Ronald Reagan- was actually losing to him for most of the 1980 election. It took some fairly substantial treason for the Republicans to win that election, repeating their efforts from 1968.

Of course, Carter was one of the most serious and effective policymakers of the century. He ended the Egypt-Israeli conflicts forever, started the beat-down of the Soviets in Afghanistan with none of the severe errors Reagan added to the program, he got the American embassy staff released in Iran, emphasised human rights in foreign policy- a major change in US foreign policy that would have made a significant difference had it not been immediately reversed- and how!- by Reagan. On the domestic front, too, he was quite an effective policy maker; he led the world's first serious response to the world's most important issue, climate change (again, immediately reversed). He's probably the best president of this half of the 20th century, maybe second behind LBJ. Compared with the prior and subsequent presidents, he looks like Lincoln.
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