not surprisingly this is coming from paultards
Fucking vultures...
No, wait, vultures actually have class, and actually have a reason for picking at corpses.
I've been hearing rumors now that in addition to the body armor, gas mask and tear gas he use in the theater, he also had explosives in his apartment.
So while I don't believe that gun control (more of it or less of it) would have changed a single damn thing that happened, I am left wondering just what the fuck was in his head that would make him want to do something like this.
I've been hearing rumors now that in addition to the body armor, gas mask and tear gas he use in the theater, he also had explosives in his apartment.
So while I don't believe that gun control (more of it or less of it) would have changed a single damn thing that happened, I am left wondering just what the fuck was in his head that would make him want to do something like this.
Obviously, he's a huge Superman fan, and is tired of all the media attention Batman is getting.
I've been hearing rumors now that in addition to the body armor, gas mask and tear gas he use in the theater, he also had explosives in his apartment.
So while I don't believe that gun control (more of it or less of it) would have changed a single damn thing that happened, I am left wondering just what the fuck was in his head that would make him want to do something like this.
I'm not sure if it's explosives, I keep hearing incendiaries tossed around. You can buy those just about anywhere if you know what you're doing.
I'm not sure if it's explosives, I keep hearing incendiaries tossed around. You can buy those just about anywhere if you know what you're doing.
They just now reported on MSNBC that he had, in fact, rigged his apartment with explosives linked to trip-wires.
If "more guns" prevented gun violence, then the US would have the lowest rate of gun violence in the developed world, not the second highest. (Estonia has us beat.) It's not the number of guns. It's who is allowed to have them and where they are allowed to use them.
Er... K7N02...Well that's a first. I wonder which model is that.I'm not sure if it's explosives, I keep hearing incendiaries tossed around. You can buy those just about anywhere if you know what you're doing.
They just now reported on MSNBC that he had, in fact, rigged his apartment with explosives linked to trip-wires.
Something tells me the guy is just a lunatic.
If "more guns" prevented gun violence, then the US would have the lowest rate of gun violence in the developed world, not the second highest. (Estonia has us beat.) It's not the number of guns. It's who is allowed to have them and where they are allowed to use them.
Personally I think it has more to do with that we have gun culture in this country that says that seeking mental health help is for pussies, what you need to sovle the problem is a gun. And you have pro-gun groups that are always screaming "THEY WANTS TO TAKE OUR GUNS AWAY!!!" so the idiots go out a stock pile weapons, making the gun lobby(which includes the pro-gun groups) rich as fuck.
You know what really gets me, as a Christian, is to see the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and then some senseless crazy act of a derelict takes place. Some of us happen to believe that when our founders talked about guarding our virtue and freedom, that that was important. Whether it’s John Adams saying our Constitution was made only for moral and religious people… Ben Franklin, only a virtuous people are capable of freedom, as nations become corrupt and vicious they have more need of masters. We have been at war with the very pillars, the very foundation of this country.http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12856827-how-not-to-respond-to-a-tragedy?lite
People say … where was God in all of this? We’ve threatened high school graduation participations, if they use God’s name, they’re going to be jailed … I mean that kind of stuff. Where was God? What have we done with God? We don’t want him around. I kind of like his protective hand being present.
This is the same guy who said that if more people had guns, then this wouldn't happen.
I wonder if he seriously thinks guns are a Judeo-Christian value.
This is the same guy who said that if more people had guns, then this wouldn't happen.
I wonder if he seriously thinks guns are a Judeo-Christian value.
Oh, those remarks are child's play compared to this (https://www.google.com/webhp?rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS468US468&sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1C1GGGE_enUS468US468&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=terrorist%20babies&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=ef586ce76644437e&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=600).
NO! NO NO NO NO NO! Nothing Baws Limbauh said had anything to do with this. This was a random act of terror, that's it.
Ironbite-jesus.
It's who is allowed to have them and where they are allowed to use them.
Personally I think it has more to do with that we have gun culture in this country that says that seeking mental health help is for pussies,
Welp I guess they found out the truth:
http://blog.doodooecon.com/2012/07/former-occupy-san-diego-member-attacks.html
Apparently it is possible that Holmes was a member of the occupy movement. (This was uncovered by a "private investigator") And his reason for the attack was the poor portrayal of the movement in Batman Rises. (Because Bane fights against the 1% and his terrorism and violent tactics are much like the grassroots occupy movement. Wait what?)
Well I guess we have to believe it since the evidence is quite clear that... Actually following the link (http://www.pibillwarner.com/2012/07/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-holmes.html) I don't see any evidence at all... Odd. It is almost as if people were just trying to use this massacre to defame their political opponents... Very professional.
Excuse me. I'm gonna go and throw up now.
Welp I guess they found out the truth:
http://blog.doodooecon.com/2012/07/former-occupy-san-diego-member-attacks.html
Apparently it is possible that Holmes was a member of the occupy movement. (This was uncovered by a "private investigator") And his reason for the attack was the poor portrayal of the movement in Batman Rises. (Because Bane fights against the 1% and his terrorism and violent tactics are much like the grassroots occupy movement. Wait what?)
Well I guess we have to believe it since the evidence is quite clear that... Actually following the link (http://www.pibillwarner.com/2012/07/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-holmes.html) I don't see any evidence at all... Odd. It is almost as if people were just trying to use this massacre to defame their political opponents... Very professional.
Excuse me. I'm gonna go and throw up now.
Same deal with the Columbine shooters.
Some people are just dicks.
Some people are just batcrap crazy.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
No political or conspiracist motives are needed whatsoever.
Wait, they'll call him on possibly being a occupier, but they won't call him on being a devote Christian. Double standards much, Teabaggers?O Riley says that christians dont kkill people
Wait, they'll call him on possibly being a occupier, but they won't call him on being a devote Christian. Double standards much, Teabaggers?O Riley says that christians dont kkill people
This is not just some natural disaster. It can be prevented, if you want. If you don't, admit that.
This is not just some natural disaster. It can be prevented, if you want. If you don't, admit that.
This. Violence doesn't happen in a vacuum.
This is not just some natural disaster. It can be prevented, if you want. If you don't, admit that.
No, the way you prevent crimes like this is deglamorizing violence, enabling access to better mental health care, and limiting what kinds of guns you can carry and in what context (http://unseilie.tumblr.com/post/27679155424/on-guns).With all due respect Smurfette, we still have gun violence in my country and you have it in places like Norway, so while you may minimize it, you are not going to prevent it without removing weapons from the public.
And how many watch violent shit, and are perfectly fine, don't commit crimes what so ever?? With all the violent shit I've watched over the years, I should be a serial killer, but I don't go about killing folks because I'm stable, and so is most of population.
Also this is America, we love fucking guns, so fucking much that we put them into the fucking Constitution, wanting to limit guns just feeds into the "THEY ARE GONNA TAKE MAH GUNS" crowd paranoia, plus nutters like this fucktard in Colorado will always get the fucking guns if they want to no matter how many roadblocks you put up.
What we should focus is the shitty excuse of mental health care in this country, it would be nice if pro-gun groups would grow a fucking pair, and own up that all of these shooters were nutcases, addressing these issues would help a whole lot, but I'm not going to hold my breath, because this would require them to care about people rather than profit.
Oh yeah, and look at this bs (http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/07/20/560291/fox-proposes-banning-costumes-at-movies-amc-theaters-already-has/). OH NOES, PEOPLE IN COSTUMES!!!
This is not just some natural disaster. It can be prevented, if you want. If you don't, admit that.
And I suppose that you can cite your country'sbanning ofsignificant reduction of guns over several decades and subsequentelimination of allmassive decline in gun crimes as proof.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1736501,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1736501,00.html)This is not just some natural disaster. It can be prevented, if you want. If you don't, admit that.
And I suppose that you can cite your country'sbanning ofsignificant reduction of guns over several decades and subsequentelimination of allmassive decline in gun crimes as proof.
Absolutely.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1736501,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1736501,00.html)This is not just some natural disaster. It can be prevented, if you want. If you don't, admit that.
And I suppose that you can cite your country'sbanning ofsignificant reduction of guns over several decades and subsequentelimination of allmassive decline in gun crimes as proof.
Absolutely.
Am I the only one who finds it pathetic that people seem to want to blame everyone but the douchebag who pulled the trigger, even on this forum?
Blame the douche who pulled the trigger, and him alone, at least until more facts come to light.
Oh yeah, and look at this bs (http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/07/20/560291/fox-proposes-banning-costumes-at-movies-amc-theaters-already-has/). OH NOES, PEOPLE IN COSTUMES!!!
No, the way you prevent crimes like this is deglamorizing violence, enabling access to better mental health care, and limiting what kinds of guns you can carry and in what context (http://unseilie.tumblr.com/post/27679155424/on-guns).
No, the way you prevent crimes like this is deglamorizing violence, enabling access to better mental health care, and limiting what kinds of guns you can carry and in what context (http://unseilie.tumblr.com/post/27679155424/on-guns).With all due respect Smurfette, we still have gun violence in my country and you have it in places like Norway, so while you may minimize it, you are not going to prevent it without removing weapons from the public.
There are already laws limiting guns. How many more would you like to feel better? Because that's exactly what they're for.And how many watch violent shit, and are perfectly fine, don't commit crimes what so ever?? With all the violent shit I've watched over the years, I should be a serial killer, but I don't go about killing folks because I'm stable, and so is most of population.
Also this is America, we love fucking guns, so fucking much that we put them into the fucking Constitution, wanting to limit guns just feeds into the "THEY ARE GONNA TAKE MAH GUNS" crowd paranoia, plus nutters like this fucktard in Colorado will always get the fucking guns if they want to no matter how many roadblocks you put up.
What we should focus is the shitty excuse of mental health care in this country, it would be nice if pro-gun groups would grow a fucking pair, and own up that all of these shooters were nutcases, addressing these issues would help a whole lot, but I'm not going to hold my breath, because this would require them to care about people rather than profit.
Oh yeah, and look at this bs (http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/07/20/560291/fox-proposes-banning-costumes-at-movies-amc-theaters-already-has/). OH NOES, PEOPLE IN COSTUMES!!!
Yeah, I read that too. I'd be willing to bet my life that we'll see laws banning costumes before laws limiting guns for this reason. :(
That's their fucking problem. Let people have hunting rifles, sure. I think we should make them get licenses before they can use them, like we do with cars. But what the hell does anyone need with a semi automatic machine assault whatever gun like what Holmes had? If it's just for a hobby, what's wrong with having to reload after every six shots or so? Inconvenient? That's bull.
But for a case like this, there is no simple one-size-fits-all solution, not banning ARs and not having more people carrying guns. It's complex and I honestly believe we need to look more closely at social and mental issues involved in this.
Headline news today
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/us/texas-truck-wreck/index.html?eref=igoogledmn_topstories (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/us/texas-truck-wreck/index.html?eref=igoogledmn_topstories)
OHMYGOD WE GOTTA BAN PICKUP TRUCKS!!!111
I was intentionally being stupid. That's how I see these "ban the guns to prevent things like this" argumentsHeadline news today
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/us/texas-truck-wreck/index.html?eref=igoogledmn_topstories (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/us/texas-truck-wreck/index.html?eref=igoogledmn_topstories)
OHMYGOD WE GOTTA BAN PICKUP TRUCKS!!!111
...just stop, please.
This is not just some natural disaster. It can be prevented, if you want. If you don't, admit that.
Like I said, if you are willing to pay the cost of regular gun massacres for the value of 'freedom' and 'protection' against an evil state that would totally kill everyone except for a bunch of Kentuckians with .22s (seriously, I've heard this argument more times than I can count), that's fine. But admit it. Gun crime is the cost you pay for 'freedom'.
Thing is, there are other countries with similar degrees of freedom to the US, some with stricter gun control and some without, that have a lot less gun crime than we do. So what are we doing wrong?
Perchance it is the way we view guns in our society? We've got this "screw the police, I'll take the law into my own hands" idea. I mean, we've got neighborhood watchmen, we've got "Stand Your Ground" laws, we've got the Castle Doctrine, and then on top of that we have people yelling about how fucking vital guns are to keep you safe from the invading [insert ethnic group here] and there we go.
So yes, Fred, gun crime is the price all Americans pay for all their collective freedoms.
If you liberals want to ban something, ban Batman. He's a rich, Zimmerman minded vigilante, who answers to protect the elite 1%. Not to mention, this movie has obviously had a very bad influence on society as the "Joker" is currently incarcerated in a Colorado jail for killing 12 people.
It's not conspiracy, but this comment I found on msnbc is rather enraging.QuoteIf you liberals want to ban something, ban Batman. He's a rich, Zimmerman minded vigilante, who answers to protect the elite 1%. Not to mention, this movie has obviously had a very bad influence on society as the "Joker" is currently incarcerated in a Colorado jail for killing 12 people.
Perchance it is the way we view guns in our society? We've got this "screw the police, I'll take the law into my own hands" idea. I mean, we've got neighborhood watchmen, we've got "Stand Your Ground" laws, we've got the Castle Doctrine, and then on top of that we have people yelling about how fucking vital guns are to keep you safe from the invading [insert ethnic group here] and there we go.
You could have no two cultures further away from each other.
Japan has a vastly different culture from the US if I may say so. Even their constitution urges them to seek peace rather than hostilities.Funnily enough, that constitution was imposed on Japan by the US.
Perchance it is the way we view guns in our society? We've got this "screw the police, I'll take the law into my own hands" idea. I mean, we've got neighborhood watchmen, we've got "Stand Your Ground" laws, we've got the Castle Doctrine, and then on top of that we have people yelling about how fucking vital guns are to keep you safe from the invading [insert ethnic group here] and there we go.
Southerners do not endorse violence in the abstract more than do Northerners, nor do they endorse violence in all specific forms of circumstances. Rather, they are more likely to endorse violence as an appropriate response to insults, as a means of self protection, and as a socialization tool in training children.
Always a crowd favorite. Guess that's why Sandman was so popular.