Bernie Sanders Takes the lead in Iowa

[VainRobot]

http://time.com/4028812/bernie-sanders-iowa-poll/

Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is Iowa's new frontrunner as of today. His lead isn't statistically significant yet, but at the rate he's surging I would be surprised if it wasn't by the end of the month.

• Sanders: 41%
• Clinton: 40%
• Biden: 12%

MOE: 3.4%

Between 18-34 Year Olds:

• Clinton: 19%
  
• Sanders: 66%

It should be interesting to see how the Clinton campaign responds to this.

[nickiknack]

You want to know the secret to this all, I sacrificed a rich dude to Cthulhu last night.

[Askold]

GOP has been focusing their slander and propaganda on Clinton so it makes sense that she is going down in the gallups. Once the Democrats have chosen their candidate things get interesting. Clinton may in fact have lost since even if it is mainly lies the propaganda against her seems to work.

[Art Vandelay]

You want to know the secret to this all, I sacrificed a rich dude to Cthulhu last night.

Do that another 49 times and we're golden.

[guizonde]

the republican answer to this piece of news.

[Vypernight]

Oct 7 is the first debate between the two.  I can see it now;

"Mrs. Clinton, what do you think of this topic."
"Mr. Sanders, why do you think Mrs. Clinton answered that way,"

Especially after seeing crap like this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhIxEhkTdCw

[Ultimate Paragon]

I wonder what a Sanders vs. Trump general election would look like.

[Vypernight]

I wonder what a Sanders vs. Trump general election would look like.

I think the phrase you're looking for is, 'Curb Stomp Battle.'

[nickiknack]

the republican answer to this piece of news.

You know the sad thing is that it could be the Democratic establishment answer too, given how they've already anointed Hillary as the nominee unofficially more or less and they really dislike Sanders because he's an outsider.

GOP has been focusing their slander and propaganda on Clinton so it makes sense that she is going down in the gallups. Once the Democrats have chosen their candidate things get interesting. Clinton may in fact have lost since even if it is mainly lies the propaganda against her seems to work.

Not so sure, as much as they hate Hillary, a few of the right wing talking heads have come out expressing that right wing media would go a little bit more easy on her(such as Coulter) given they really do want to have a dirty campaign. They really don't get the dirty campaign they wanted if Sanders gets the nomination given that he is more or less relatively clean. Not to mention I've seen known Reagan worshipers come out in support of Sanders, which still leaves me in outer shock, especially given the names they've called me over the years.

[mellenORL]

If it is Trump v Sanders, I think Sanders might be elected, by the usual nail biting margin. Trump is scaring and pissing off my neighbors, who are mostly elderly mainstream Republicans. The ones who are Democrats do not like Clinton and never have - they supported Obama early on during the race for 2008. If Trump does go Independent, and Sanders keeps up momentum, Sanders will win handily. The GOP will attack him, but really there's probably nothing in Sander's past that is shady. So, they'll lie and  they'll call him too soft to be a leader. If given a choice between Trump and Sanders, my GOP neighbors will either vote for Sanders or abstain. They really hate Trump. And at least Sanders is an experienced politician who understands the House and Senate, so they would be less scared with him in office than an egomaniacal dilettante.

[ironbite]

You want to know the secret to this all, I sacrificed a rich dude to Cthulhu last night.

And I helped!

[VainRobot]

As much as the media has already chosen him as the GOP nominee, it seems exceedingly unlikely that Trump will be their candidate. It seems like he's mostly capitalizing on the fuckton of candidates and using his power and influence to stand out the most. Once the parade gets narrowed down I think the GOP base will focus on a couple candidates just for the sake of "Anyone But Trump". He's good at appealing to knee-jerk reactionaries, but the majority of Republicans seem to hate him.

[nickiknack]

You want to know the secret to this all, I sacrificed a rich dude to Cthulhu last night.

And I helped!

Nothing says friendship like human sacrifice conducted to help out our pick of a presidential candidate.

[Lt. Fred]

Trump's not going to win the Republican primary. When Jeb! finally crawls over the line the party will be so split ala 2012 that he'll have no chance, regardless of who runs against him. Sanders or Hillary, the Dem Primary is tantamount to election.

[Cerim Treascair]

I think what's most surprising, to me, is the sheer popularity of Sanders with the 18-34 demographic.  That's stunning.

... also? yes please, Sanders for the win.  Because I'd LOVE to see something like a Minimum Basic Income become a thing.