Bernie Sanders Takes the lead in Iowa

[nickiknack]

That's probably because we younglings know we've been shafted by our parents and grandparents.

[Sigmaleph]

Young people tend to be a lot more leftist than their parents though? This is not exactly news.

(IIRC, The Authoritarians had a bit where it studied people's opinions as they age and found that going to college tends to make people trend towards the left, and having children makes them trend towards the right)

[nickiknack]

New Poll Numbers:

[VainRobot]

23% in SC is HUGE! Last poll there showed Bernie at 9%.

[Vypernight]

I have a feeling if Clinton wins the nomination, the GOP will have a better chance of winning the election.  With Sanders gaining so much support, his losing would p*** off a lot of people, and those people may just decide, "aw **** it!" when it comes to the actual election.

For the debates, Clinton is probably going to try and say the same things as Sanders, counting on her popularity to carry her the rest of the way.  If this happens, he needs to get aggressive and call her out on her B.S.  He doesn't have to resort to mudslinging.  But if Clinton says she supports 'A,' Sanders needs to jump in with, 'but you voted against it last term.' 

He also needs to be a little more specific in his plans.  Saying he wants free college and medical for all sounds nice, but he needs to say where it's coming from.  Even explaining that, "If we pulled x% from our military budget, we could afford to cover 'y' and still have plenty of money to steamroll others if we have to, which WILL be a last resort.'

Oct 7 may be a big night for him; he can either leap past Clinton or fall back into her shadow. 

I'm so hoping for the former.

[VainRobot]

It seems Hillary is shying away from the progressive tactics and has instead started labeling herself as a moderate:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/index.html

[Vypernight]

It seems Hillary is shying away from the progressive tactics and has instead started labeling herself as a moderate:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/hillary-clinton-democrat-progressive/index.html

"Some people want it to be about everything other than what they would do when they are president," Clinton said. "I think it really matters that people tell you what they will do and how they intend to do it, not just in broad stokes but in details. How are you the voters supposed to make up your minds?"

Gotta agree with this part.  Sounds like Clinton is challenging Sanders to be more specific with his speeches and promises.  Of course, if could blow up in her face if he does just that.

[pyro]

... also? yes please, Sanders for the win.  Because I'd LOVE to see something like a Minimum Basic Income become a thing.

I would too, but I want a specific statement that he's going to do exactly that. I thought Obamacare was going to be a nationalized health care system like the UK has, and look what we actually got.

[nickiknack]

I want a Sanders/Warren ticket, I drool at the thought of it's possibility.

[ironbite]

From the mouth?

[nickiknack]

Well, now that you mention it.....

[dpareja]

... also? yes please, Sanders for the win.  Because I'd LOVE to see something like a Minimum Basic Income become a thing.

I would too, but I want a specific statement that he's going to do exactly that. I thought Obamacare was going to be a nationalized health care system like the UK has, and look what we actually got.

Isn't the Affordable Care Act essentially what the Republicans proposed when Hillary Clinton pitched her vision for health care 20+ years ago?

[pyro]

... also? yes please, Sanders for the win.  Because I'd LOVE to see something like a Minimum Basic Income become a thing.

I would too, but I want a specific statement that he's going to do exactly that. I thought Obamacare was going to be a nationalized health care system like the UK has, and look what we actually got.

Isn't the Affordable Care Act essentially what the Republicans proposed when Hillary Clinton pitched her vision for health care 20+ years ago?

Yep. That's what's so screwed up -- former Republican politics is now COMMUNISM AND IT'S GOING TO TURN US INTO SOVIET RUSSIA.

[nickiknack]

And that's without that horrible public option that would make it SUPER COMMUNISM.

[rookie]

But Obamacare was cool when Romney did it in Massachusetts.