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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2085 on: December 23, 2013, 12:39:52 am »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2086 on: December 23, 2013, 01:43:37 am »
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The entire English language is ableist.

As someone who tries to avoid ableist language anymore (with some relaxation here and there) you have no idea how true this is x_x
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2087 on: December 23, 2013, 08:32:18 am »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2088 on: December 23, 2013, 09:21:32 am »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2089 on: December 23, 2013, 02:25:47 pm »
What isn't rape culture according to these people?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2090 on: December 23, 2013, 03:18:23 pm »
Quote from: thejebusfire on December 23, 2013, 02:25:47 pm
What isn't rape culture according to these people?

Um...


Hmmmm... 

Oh wait, wait, wait!  ... Ah, never mind...
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I got nothin'. :-/
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2091 on: December 23, 2013, 03:36:21 pm »
I think the mistletoes 'tradition' is freaking weird. The expectation to kiss random strangers... it's not rape culture ffs, but I don't feel comfortable with the idea.

For the record, I've never seen a mistletoe that wasn't still attached to a tree.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2092 on: December 23, 2013, 03:48:07 pm »
I've never seen a mistletoe that was attached to a tree.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2093 on: December 23, 2013, 04:07:19 pm »
I've never actually seen people kiss under mistletoe that weren't already dating/married. It's not any sort of essential tradition.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2094 on: December 23, 2013, 04:31:37 pm »
The mistletoe is our state flower yet no body here does that with the exception of a few couples.

Also, the real war on Christmas:

http://intersectionalfeminism.tumblr.com/post/70876974861/reasons-why-its-not-okay-to-tell-someone-to-get-into
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2095 on: December 23, 2013, 06:15:16 pm »
Quote from: thejebusfire on December 23, 2013, 04:31:37 pm
The mistletoe is our state flower yet no body here does that with the exception of a few couples.

Also, the real war on Christmas:

http://intersectionalfeminism.tumblr.com/post/70876974861/reasons-why-its-not-okay-to-tell-someone-to-get-into

As far as Tumblr social justice is concerned, almost everyone on the planet (who isn't a white cis male) is a bundle of frayed nerves, ready to explode into a panic attack and/or being self-harmful behavior at the slightest provocation, and the only way to avoid triggering any of this is to basically sanitize the entirety of society and isolate almost everyone into metaphorical "personal bubbles".
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2096 on: December 23, 2013, 08:21:45 pm »
Note that the following is my own personal experience and I don't claim to speak for anyone else but myself:

I had a very traumatic Christmas one year. When I was ten I lost a loved one on Christmas night (my great grandmother). It was a traumatic experience yes, but I moved on. Because I personally believe it would be an insult to her memory to stop celebrating because of her death when we had a lot of great times together while she was alive. 
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2097 on: December 30, 2013, 04:02:40 pm »
Actually no.  I agree with that.  It does make you complicit in bigotry and oppression.  After all, one person saying gays are bad can be shouted down but a whole chorus of 'em gets a bit chancy.  The whole freedom of speech thing is that you can say what you want but you have to accept the consequences of your speech not hide behind something.

Ironbite-not sure why you're disagreeing with that.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2098 on: December 30, 2013, 04:13:34 pm »
*adds gasoline to developing flame war*
I respect and defend someone's right to be a bigoted asshole and to say bigoted, hateful things. I do not support their "right" to avoid the consequences of their bigoted, hateful speech by crying "it's in the bibble/religious freedom/you're persecuting me/etc".
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2099 on: December 30, 2013, 04:56:10 pm »
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newsflash defending someone’s right to be a bigoted asshole doesn’t make you an open minded, principled person, it makes you complicit in bigotry and oppression

Haha, no. That's not how freedom of speech works.

yeah, if anything I'd throw that in the best of thread. Ironbite said it best, people can say what they want, but that doesn't exempt them from social consequences. The whole idea of freedom of speech (according to Justice Black and Douglas) is to create a market place of ideas. That is why government shouldn't get involved, so good, albeit unpopular opinions (read communism and socialism*) can be promoted in a free and civil manner. Regardless, society is free to reject such views as stupid and pointless. Which is the idea of free speech, Jack can say "fags will burn in hell" and people can say "Jack's an ass", but the government can't discriminate against either viewpoint.

*I went with communism because most of the famous free speech cases are states persecuting communists.
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