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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2730 on: February 22, 2014, 01:54:10 am »
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- misgenders Brienne of Tarth, who is genderfluid

Says you!

I haven't seen the third season or read the books yet, so I haven't had the chance to become overly familiar with Brienne. Is there anything to support her being genderfluid, or are they just basing this on the fact that she prefers roles/clothing/etc. that are typically defined as masculine? If it's the latter, they're a massive hypocrite.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2731 on: February 22, 2014, 01:55:53 am »
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- misgenders Brienne of Tarth, who is genderfluid

Says you!

I haven't seen the third season or read the books yet, so I haven't had the chance to become overly familiar with Brienne. Is there anything to support her being genderfluid, or are they just basing this on the fact that she's not stereotypically girly? If it's the latter, they're massive hypocrites.

I'm finding no evidence that she's anything more than a very masculine woman.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2732 on: February 22, 2014, 02:01:04 am »
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Today my academic advisor told me I “can’t expect anyone to listen to me if I didn’t do the reading”

THE READING.

OH NO I NEED TO READ THE WHITE MAN’S WORDS OR ELSE NOTHING I SAY MEANS ANYTHING! I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO THINK MY THOUGHTS ARE VALID BECAUSE A WOCS THOUGHTS DONT MEAN SHIT WHEN A WHITE MAN “WROTE A BOOK”

Fucking college.

I don’t know why academic has this reputation of being so concerned with justice. Academia is NOT concerned with justice or activism. They silence WOC like myself pretty much every day just because we have opinions that don’t “relate” to the text.

Fuck the text. I don’t need to read the text to get an A. And fuck it, I don’t even care about grades. I don’t even want a degree anymore. I just want to be heard.

You can be heard, but that doesn't mean you'll be taken seriously. If you want people to take your "activism" seriously then the first step would be reading the given material and properly critiquing it without invoking factors the author has no control over, such as their race and gender.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2733 on: February 22, 2014, 02:03:25 am »
It takes a special kind of pants-on-head retarded to accuse an author of misgendering a character that he created in the first place.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2734 on: February 22, 2014, 02:04:10 am »
I'm starting to feel sorry for her, she's probably getting dozens of "Hope you get raped, you stupid cunt" threats now.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2735 on: February 22, 2014, 02:07:24 am »
I'm starting to feel sorry for her, she's probably getting dozens of "Hope you get raped, you stupid cunt" threats now.

Don't even get me started on the kind of people who do that kind of shit.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2736 on: February 22, 2014, 02:09:51 am »
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- misgenders Brienne of Tarth, who is genderfluid

Says you!

I haven't seen the third season or read the books yet, so I haven't had the chance to become overly familiar with Brienne. Is there anything to support her being genderfluid, or are they just basing this on the fact that she prefers roles/clothing/etc. that are typically defined as masculine? If it's the latter, they're a massive hypocrite.

The latter. In many ways the views we are dealing with are anti-feminist.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2737 on: February 22, 2014, 02:11:20 am »
I'm starting to feel sorry for her, she's probably getting dozens of "Hope you get raped, you stupid cunt" threats now.

Don't even get me started on the kind of people who do that kind of shit.
The guy arguing with her is some kind of anti-feminist as well so he's not exactly a great guy or anything.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2738 on: February 22, 2014, 04:27:55 am »


1. Ursula is fat and vain because her image was based off of a drag queen who was fat and vain. Her character was unloved because she was evil and greedy not because she was overweight. And the sequel introduced us to Morgana her skinny sister:


So if they made Ursula fat because being fat is bad why did they make her sister so thin?





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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2739 on: February 22, 2014, 05:59:42 am »


1. Ursula is fat and vain because her image was based off of a drag queen who was fat and vain. Her character was unloved because she was evil and greedy not because she was overweight. And the sequel introduced us to Morgana her skinny sister:


So if they made Ursula fat because being fat is bad why did they make her sister so thin?
Also, to the "fat and bad are synonymous for Disney women", I offer my rebutal : Maleficent and the Queen from Snow White.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2740 on: February 22, 2014, 09:11:42 am »
So quick to whine about how one fat chick in a Disney movie is an antagonist, yet they never complain about Disney's disturbing tendency to portray queens as a cadre of completely untrustworthy assholes; that if women gain any real authority and power, they become evil.  Then again, they may have reversed this trend, I dunno, I'm...not a huge fan of Disney, to be honest.  Even when I was a kid, I was largely unimpressed by them.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2741 on: February 22, 2014, 09:20:09 am »
So quick to whine about how one fat chick in a Disney movie is an antagonist, yet they never complain about Disney's disturbing tendency to portray queens as a cadre of completely untrustworthy assholes; that if women gain any real authority and power, they become evil.  Then again, they may have reversed this trend, I dunno, I'm...not a huge fan of Disney, to be honest.  Even when I was a kid, I was largely unimpressed by them.

I think there's a tiny bit of reversal, thanks to Frozen.  Elsa becomes queen, and the only real threat at the time is that she can't control her abilities.  She's not malevolent herself.  She's most definitely loved and appreciated by the end of the film.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2742 on: February 22, 2014, 09:21:42 am »
Aah, that's good.  The whole "women can have a little power, but not too much!" thing kinda bugged the crap outta me.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2743 on: February 22, 2014, 09:32:13 am »
Aah, that's good.  The whole "women can have a little power, but not too much!" thing kinda bugged the crap outta me.

If you haven't seen Frozen yet, Ravy, I highly recommend it.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2744 on: February 22, 2014, 11:36:51 am »
Aah, that's good.  The whole "women can have a little power, but not too much!" thing kinda bugged the crap outta me.

Because Disney never portrays males as letting power corrupt them.  Nope.  Never happens.  Or if it does it's okay because they're guys, amirite?
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