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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/discovery-jerusalem-tomb-purported-early-christian-symbols-ignites-194932434.html

This is just something I found interesting. I still gotta wonder though... These guys claim they may have found Jesus's tomb years ago, so... if that's true, then doesn't that kinda disprove the story of Jesus in the first place? I mean, didn't he ascend into heaven or something, body and all?

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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 05:39:50 pm »
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/discovery-jerusalem-tomb-purported-early-christian-symbols-ignites-194932434.html

This is just something I found interesting. I still gotta wonder though... These guys claim they may have found Jesus's tomb years ago, so... if that's true, then doesn't that kinda disprove the story of Jesus in the first place? I mean, didn't he ascend into heaven or something, body and all?


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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 05:42:49 pm »
It's because fundies find a tomb in Jerusalem and they automatically assume it's related somehow to Jesus without realizing how this may contradict their holy book.
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 05:44:57 pm »
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/discovery-jerusalem-tomb-purported-early-christian-symbols-ignites-194932434.html

This is just something I found interesting. I still gotta wonder though... These guys claim they may have found Jesus's tomb years ago, so... if that's true, then doesn't that kinda disprove the story of Jesus in the first place? I mean, didn't he ascend into heaven or something, body and all?

I think that was proven to be a hoax if your talking about the one I think you are, but I think they have found Jesus' tomb a few times. Yeshua was a common name at the time. Once someone took a stone sarcophagus that had the Hebrew writing for the name Yeshua and then added "Son of Joseph" or something to that effect to it and tried to sell it to an Israeli museum. The museum looked at it and said it was authentic and they bought it, only to realize the mistake later.

Also the Shroud of Turin.
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 05:59:11 pm »
One guy said, "It's just a musty old tomb." The other guy said, "Geezus!"  The entire story has been badly distorted from that point.
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 10:16:53 pm »
This is just something I found interesting. I still gotta wonder though... These guys claim they may have found Jesus's tomb years ago, so... if that's true, then doesn't that kinda disprove the story of Jesus in the first place? I mean, didn't he ascend into heaven or something, body and all?
It is only a problem if they claim they found Jesus’s body, too. He was laid in a tomb before the resurrection, after all.

Say, if it wound up being empty, was there any chance some frugal individual wound up using it for someone else’s body?
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 10:49:16 pm »
This is just something I found interesting. I still gotta wonder though... These guys claim they may have found Jesus's tomb years ago, so... if that's true, then doesn't that kinda disprove the story of Jesus in the first place? I mean, didn't he ascend into heaven or something, body and all?
It is only a problem if they claim they found Jesus’s body, too. He was laid in a tomb before the resurrection, after all.

Say, if it wound up being empty, was there any chance some frugal individual wound up using it for someone else’s body?

One wonders why they would give Jesus his own tomb. He didn't pay for it, and they considered him a criminal. Wouldn't they have put him in the equivalent of a modern city owned graveyards where they bury homeless people, unclaimed bodies and such? He would be place in an unmarked crypt with many other people right? Also didn't the Romans prefer cremation?
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 08:13:24 am »
This is just something I found interesting. I still gotta wonder though... These guys claim they may have found Jesus's tomb years ago, so... if that's true, then doesn't that kinda disprove the story of Jesus in the first place? I mean, didn't he ascend into heaven or something, body and all?
It is only a problem if they claim they found Jesus’s body, too. He was laid in a tomb before the resurrection, after all.

Say, if it wound up being empty, was there any chance some frugal individual wound up using it for someone else’s body?

One wonders why they would give Jesus his own tomb. He didn't pay for it, and they considered him a criminal. Wouldn't they have put him in the equivalent of a modern city owned graveyards where they bury homeless people, unclaimed bodies and such? He would be place in an unmarked crypt with many other people right? Also didn't the Romans prefer cremation?
A man called Simon of somewheresomewhere donated his own tomb.
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 09:35:39 am »
If Jesus even existed, wouldn't he have just been thrown in a mass burial pile with the other dead prisoners of the Roman government? And not granted the rights to be buried in a tomb? Weren't tombs mainly for rich people or people of importance? I don't think Jesus's family was rolling in money.
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 09:46:45 am »
If Jesus even existed, wouldn't he have just been thrown in a mass burial pile with the other dead prisoners of the Roman government? And not granted the rights to be buried in a tomb? Weren't tombs mainly for rich people or people of importance? I don't think Jesus's family was rolling in money.

As Yia said, a rich man named Simon asked for and received permission to bury Jesus body the tomb he had bought and prepared for himself.  It's a convenient plot line.  But this is a minor point.  There are so many other holes in the crucifixion story that, upon logical examination, makes the whole thing fall apart.
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 10:05:48 am »
This is just something I found interesting. I still gotta wonder though... These guys claim they may have found Jesus's tomb years ago, so... if that's true, then doesn't that kinda disprove the story of Jesus in the first place? I mean, didn't he ascend into heaven or something, body and all?
It is only a problem if they claim they found Jesus’s body, too. He was laid in a tomb before the resurrection, after all.

Say, if it wound up being empty, was there any chance some frugal individual wound up using it for someone else’s body?

One wonders why they would give Jesus his own tomb. He didn't pay for it, and they considered him a criminal. Wouldn't they have put him in the equivalent of a modern city owned graveyards where they bury homeless people, unclaimed bodies and such? He would be place in an unmarked crypt with many other people right? Also didn't the Romans prefer cremation?
A man called Simon of somewheresomewhere donated his own tomb.

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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 12:43:13 pm »
You're right, TheL, I made the same mistake, too, in naming him.  <slaps self upside head>  Should have known better.
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 01:18:02 pm »
If Jesus even existed, wouldn't he have just been thrown in a mass burial pile with the other dead prisoners of the Roman government? And not granted the rights to be buried in a tomb? Weren't tombs mainly for rich people or people of importance? I don't think Jesus's family was rolling in money.

As Yia said, a rich man named Simon asked for and received permission to bury Jesus body the tomb he had bought and prepared for himself.  It's a convenient plot line.  But this is a minor point.  There are so many other holes in the crucifixion story that, upon logical examination, makes the whole thing fall apart.

Logical examination meaning that people don't rise from the dead?  8)
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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 01:50:12 pm »
If Jesus even existed, wouldn't he have just been thrown in a mass burial pile with the other dead prisoners of the Roman government? And not granted the rights to be buried in a tomb? Weren't tombs mainly for rich people or people of importance? I don't think Jesus's family was rolling in money.

As Yia said, a rich man named Simon asked for and received permission to bury Jesus body the tomb he had bought and prepared for himself.  It's a convenient plot line.  But this is a minor point.  There are so many other holes in the crucifixion story that, upon logical examination, makes the whole thing fall apart.

Logical examination meaning that people don't rise from the dead?  8)

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Re: Newly discovered tomb sparks debate over origin of Christianity
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2012, 07:40:30 am »
Doesn't this happen every time someone finds a tomb near Jerusalem?
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