The Funny/Stupid Pics Thread

[Askold]

Well, you make a good point about that Picard comic Veras, but it is a joke about how in that particular scenario "fat shaming" is particularly stupid and counter productive.

Still, even if I think that at extreme obesity is dangerous and people should try to keep their weight in check insulting others over their weight is wrong and making fun of any physical feature of a person is kinda low blow.

[chitoryu12]

To start with, I have two questions about Sonic's anatomy.  One, why are his thumbs backwards?  Two, why is there a horizontal, dripping vagina on his face?

On a more serious note, am I the only one annoyed by the sentiment expressed in the Picard one?  It's only slightly less shitty than the attitude that it is protesting, because it is still inherently judgmental and assumes the inferiority of overweight people.  Yes, you shouldn't make fun of overweight people who are at the gym.  However, you shouldn't do it because making fun of people for their weight is a shitty thing to do, not because they're trying to fix "the problem" that you have with the way that they look.

If someone is actively trying to lose weight for health reasons or whatever, then that's great, good for them.  But that's where it ends. 

Sorry, I'm having a hard time articulating my thoughts on this, but posts like that have always annoyed me.

The thing is, obesity is a problem. It's an actual, factual health problem, not just a thing about looking better than everyone else. People SHOULD strive to be healthier, simply because dying earlier is a pretty shitty thing and living your life in poor physical condition is also a bit shitty. If someone is working out and eating healthier, they're actively trying to improve their health and increase their life span.

The "problem" isn't appearance. It's health.

[Veras]

Of course obesity is a public health problem.

But do you really think that the people who "fat shame," to use the sjw term, do it because they are considering the strains that the obesity epidemic puts on the public health system?  I don't.  I think that when people make fun of overweight people for being fat, they're doing it because they're assholes and they don't like they way that the victims of their bullying look.

The last time I checked, I was slightly underweight.  I eat an awful, fatty, greasy, meat-based diet, and I rarely get any exercise at all.  I certainly never do anything with the express goal of getting exercise (If I ride my bike or play a game of basketball, it's because I want to ride my bike or play basketball).  Nobody judges me for it.  Nobody tells me to change anything.

[chitoryu12]

Of course obesity is a public health problem.

But do you really think that the people who "fat shame," to use the sjw term, do it because they are considering the strains that the obesity epidemic puts on the public health system?  I don't.  I think that when people make fun of overweight people for being fat, they're doing it because they're assholes and they don't like they way that the victims of their bullying look.

The last time I checked, I was slightly underweight.  I eat an awful, fatty, greasy, meat-based diet, and I rarely get any exercise at all.  I certainly never do anything with the express goal of getting exercise (If I ride my bike or play a game of basketball, it's because I want to ride my bike or play basketball).  Nobody judges me for it.  Nobody tells me to change anything.

....I'm not entirely sure what your point is.

[Ghoti]

[Veras]

My point is that people who make fun of people for being fat are not doing it because they have any concern with the real costs and problems associated with obesity.  They do it because they consider themselves to be superior to the people that they target, which is not okay.  If their concern was the health and well-being of the individual in question, making fun of them, which is mean-spirited by definition, would not be their response.

My problem with the image is that it still has that assumption of superiority, assumes the same "problem," and it implies that it is okay to make fun of fat people who are not at the gym.

I would also point out that being fat isn't the same thing as obese.  Being fat the culturally-defined status of weighing more than is considered attractive, so while obese people presumably will be considered fat, so too will some people at healthy weights.

[Hoplite]

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[Ironchew]

Of course obesity is a public health problem.

But do you really think that the people who "fat shame," to use the sjw term, do it because they are considering the strains that the obesity epidemic puts on the public health system?  I don't.  I think that when people make fun of overweight people for being fat, they're doing it because they're assholes and they don't like they way that the victims of their bullying look.

The last time I checked, I was slightly underweight.  I eat an awful, fatty, greasy, meat-based diet, and I rarely get any exercise at all.  I certainly never do anything with the express goal of getting exercise (If I ride my bike or play a game of basketball, it's because I want to ride my bike or play basketball).  Nobody judges me for it.  Nobody tells me to change anything.

....I'm not entirely sure what your point is.

I'm guessing Veras meant that concern trolls apply the "health" argument inconsistently; there are plenty of skinny people out there that don't work out and actively maintain their appearance and they get no criticism on that front.

When it comes down to it, obese people are just easier to bully, and lots of bullies jump at the chance.

[chitoryu12]

My point is that people who make fun of people for being fat are not doing it because they have any concern with the real costs and problems associated with obesity.  They do it because they consider themselves to be superior to the people that they target, which is not okay.  If their concern was the health and well-being of the individual in question, making fun of them, which is mean-spirited by definition, would not be their response.

My problem with the image is that it still has that assumption of superiority, assumes the same "problem," and it implies that it is okay to make fun of fat people who are not at the gym.

I would also point out that being fat isn't the same thing as obese.  Being fat the culturally-defined status of weighing more than is considered attractive, so while obese people presumably will be considered fat, so too will some people at healthy weights.

I think you read waaaaay too far into the picture.

[Alehksunos]

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[Veras]

My point is that people who make fun of people for being fat are not doing it because they have any concern with the real costs and problems associated with obesity.  They do it because they consider themselves to be superior to the people that they target, which is not okay.  If their concern was the health and well-being of the individual in question, making fun of them, which is mean-spirited by definition, would not be their response.

My problem with the image is that it still has that assumption of superiority, assumes the same "problem," and it implies that it is okay to make fun of fat people who are not at the gym.

I would also point out that being fat isn't the same thing as obese.  Being fat the culturally-defined status of weighing more than is considered attractive, so while obese people presumably will be considered fat, so too will some people at healthy weights.

I think you read waaaaay too far into the picture.

That's certainly possible.  Earlier this week, somebody that I knew in high school posted something (an article, for lack of a better word) with a similar tone, though considerably more fleshed out.  It was meant to be inspiring and uplifting, but just came across to me as condescending (good for you, you've decided to be more like me!).  The argument that I've expressed was my reaction to the article, and the picture may have just struck a nerve because I saw it so recently.

Either way, it still feels unduly judgmental to me.  If the reason that it is not okay to make fun of a fat person is the fact that they're trying to lose weight, that pretty clearly implies that there is nothing wrong with making fun of fat people who aren't.

I also have a problem with how society defines fat, but that's another issue completely.

[I am lizard]

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[Alehksunos]

Hipsters is a pretty accurate description of "Left-wing, Capitalist", considering the expensive, tacky clothes they buy and wear.

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