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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2012, 03:30:42 pm »
Odd I thought populism was giving welfare to good christian people

Searching "populist" on Dictionary.com gave me a whole bunch of definitions that described it as being an adherent of populism, so here goes~


Pop·u·lism   [pop-yuh-liz-uhm]
noun
  • the political philosophy of the People's party.
  • ( lowercase ) any of various, often antiestablishment or anti-intellectual political movements or philosophies that offer unorthodox solutions or policies and appeal to the common person rather than according with traditional party or partisan ideologies.
  • ( lowercase ) grass-roots democracy; working-class activism; egalitarianism.
  • ( lowercase ) representation or extolling of the common person, the working class, the underdog, etc.: populism in the arts.


Considering what RavynousHunter said about his views, I'd say what he said is spot on with the definition of a populist~
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2012, 04:32:13 pm »
File me more under #3 and #4 than the others.  The common man isn't better than the rich man, and the rich man isn't better than the common man.  We are born equal, we shall live as equals, and we all go into the same earth when we die.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2012, 04:40:37 pm »
File me more under #3 and #4 than the others.  The common man isn't better than the rich man, and the rich man isn't better than the common man.  We are born equal, we shall live as equals, and we all go into the same earth when we die.

I couldn't agree with you more~  It's why I feel that we must realize that as people, we are both independent and interdependent~  It's also why I feel that everything should remain equal amongst all while still letting everypony have a voice~  I touched quite a bit on this in my own post in this thread, but yeah~
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2012, 08:13:31 pm »
Believe it or not, I'm actually a capitalist.  I do believe that the market is a game to be played and played well. 
I don't believe you. You're probably pro-capitalism or liberal (and here I use it in the classical way i.e. an advocate of laissez faire laissez passer). But I doubt you are a capitalist.

Let me expand further then.

Offering more-than-livable wages to employees is financially beneficial to the corporations because then, people have more money to spend on their products, and so, the corporation makes more money.  Stagnant money does nothing.  Cash flow is healthy.

Offering healthcare to employees is profitable because healthy employees are productive employees.  Productive employees do more for the corporation and are more likely to spend money on goods and services as opposed to severe debt.

Maintaining worker's rights is profitable because a worker that is treated fairly is a worker that is more likely to be helpful as opposed to harmful.  Unions are an important part of this.

Giving workers a fair amount of hours is profitable because then it gives workers incentive to work, while also preventing them from becoming overtaxed and unhealthy.  A worker that only works 4 hours a week in two hour shifts cannot put his all into the job because what work he is giving is returning so little pay (unless he has a salary, in which case, what the hell are you doing giving them a full weeks' pay for four hours of work?) whereas a worker that works 60 hours a week won't have the energy necessary to keep working and will burn out.

The relationship between employers and employees should be that of a trade relationship.  Employers should be offering goods (in the form of payment) to match the goods that the employees are offering (in the form of labor).  Right now, the deals are one-sided in favor of the employers.

Governments exists for a reason, and that is to apply standards and keep things in check and balance.  Corporations need regulations to thrive.

After all, football isn't a game without rules, and neither is the market.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2012, 11:13:18 pm »
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2012, 02:42:06 am »
I'm not really sure how to classify myself politically. By US standards, I am incredibly liberal. There are very few places where I agree with conservative ideology, but they do exist, and I doubt that many people will completely disagree with them.

1) I believe that government's role, first and foremost, is to provide for the people what the people cannot provide for themselves. Mostly, this includes things like infrastructure, law enforcement, health care, defense against foreign threats, educational facilities, social safety nets, and what have you. I also think government has a role in protecting peoples' basic rights and liberties, and to come down hard on those who would seek to take those rights from others.
2) Taxes should scale with one's available income, so that, the richer you are, the more you are taxed. It makes no sense to shift the bulk of the tax burden onto those with the least to spare, when someone who makes $10 million a year can live just fine on half of that. I don't know about you guys, but I've never made enough where the current tax rates (or minimum wage) would let me get by one just one job. If you're making enough to buy a new car every month, you can probably live comfortably with higher tax rates.
3) Foreign policy, at least as far as it concerns aid of some kind, should be subject not just to public opinion in this country, but also in the country we "want to help". Doesn't matter if it's a military occupation or food and medicine; if Uganda, let's say, says no thanks, then we don't help them. People have the right to at least try to solve their own problems if they so choose. Any aid offered should also take into account the state of the US (jobless/homeless rates, natural disasters, etc.), and should not exceed an amount needed by our own citizens.
4) Public school curriculum should under no circumstances be subject to popular opinion, only to that of the leading experts in the subject in question. Private schools, additionally, must be held to the same academic standards, and may not peddle pseudo-science or revisionist bullshit; if they can't back up their claims, they don't get to teach them as fact.
4a) College education, at least community college, should be free up to a 4yr degree. State universities should be subsidized, at least to allow students to attend school without needing a job to make ends meet, provided they maintain good grades and academic conduct.
5) Religious institutions must pay a small tax to be allowed use of public services (police, firefighter, etc.), and may under no circumstances be allowed to participate in public political functions. Any group caught doing so will be heavily fined. Any and all donations must be recorded like any other charity to maintain the same tax benefits.
6) All drugs should be legalized and regulated, ideally at the same level as alcohol. There's no reason for that one to get special privileges among the plethora of mind-altering substances out there.
7) The military should not receive more funding than public services during peacetime. Additionally, we should not have permanent bases on our allies' soil. There is no reason to deploy our military when there are no serious threats to our safety.
8] All public elections campaigns should be financed by the government. Any 'donations' to candidates from private citizens should be considered corruption, with both parties punished accordingly. On that note, there should be more than two political parties at all times, with each one represented at a national level, according to the size of their party.
8a) The Senate is obsolete and should be done away with. There is no reason for my state (CA) to get the same representation as Wyoming, when their population is dwarfed by even on of my state's cities.

I'll probably want to expand on this more later, but I'm really effing tired right now. I think this more or less covers all the major points of my political beliefs.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2012, 02:48:24 am »
Really leftist democrat. I think the idea of communism (everyone being economically equal and so on) was good in theory, bad in practice for the same reason that capitalism is good in theory but bad in practice: humans are greedy bastards. Therefore businesses need strict controls to keep them from going out of control, which includes closing tax loopholes and taxing the obscenely rich. I basically think that there should be a solid, government-sponsored baseline of life, with free healthcare, a certain amount of welfare, free education and roads and whatnot, and a minimum wage equal to a living wage. If people want to get rich beyond that, they're free to do so, but everyone should at least start with an equal playing field. I'm also into equality for everyone socially: no racism, no sexism, no homophobia, no transphobia, no fatphobia, nothing. For someone who's otherwise rather into the whole freedom-of-speech thing, I have a problem with hate speech and shit like the Pearls selling their child abuse manuals and so believe in things like hate crime laws. I'm also sex positive, so I'm into comprehensive, queer-positive sex education and consent culture.

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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2012, 03:21:48 am »
I'm a former Repub-turned-Independent.

Gay Marriage: Why the hell not? The conservatives keep ranting about how it "defiles the sacred nature of marriage." Gee, let me think...the Bachelor, the Bachelorette, their sequels, Every celeb marriage that was done for the lulz..yeah, there are hole-y dams that hold more water than that argument, moving on!

Firearms: I'm for concealed-carry, hunting rifles/shotguns, and even the right to have automatic weapons, WITH PREREQUISITES. Obligatory firearm training and safety measures taken. FFS, educate your kids that firearms ARE NOT TOYS.

Abortion/Birth control: Both are necessary. As to my view on the pro-life movement? This may be harsh, but I see no reason to negotiate with terrorists.

Economics: I admit, I have no answers, save that the wealthy need to do their damned duty and pay their fucking taxes. I've had it with this Robber-Baron/Gilded Age/Ayn Rand pipe dream of theirs.

Religion: Keep your Jesus off my penis, and I'll keep it off of you, religious nutters. The freedom of religion ends when it threatens the freedom of others. I want to reinforce the wall of separation between church and state until a MOAB couldn't get through it. Above all, please worship responsibly.

Immigration: Something's not working, and I'm pretty sure it's the ridiculous bureaucracy in the immigration process. Help people get in legally and maybe we won't have so many issues. While we're at it, the farm issue bothers me. We need to feed the nation, yet we can't get the workforce needed for the crops without the illegal immigrants to help work them. Short-term answer: work permits to allow for easier crossing both ways.

Drugs: Legalize them and be done with it, and see what else we can do with them besides get people high. The drug war is a complete bust, and we're missing a ton of good opportunities besides for medical advancement just because we're stuck with Zombie Reagan.


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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2012, 07:17:03 am »
Independent/Moderate here.

-I support the death penalty and think some people shouldn't be allowed to live.  I know that's not nice, but no one ever accused me of being a saint.

-I support making guns difficult for people with no brains to acquire, but I don't support outright banning them.  I do feel, however, that if you shoot a gun, you better be damn ready to back up your reasoning because you WILL be held responsibile for it.

-I support Fairtax.

-I agree with Universal Healthcare, but I think the one we got, the so-called Obamacare, is crap.  Now I don't blame Obama, but I do blame BOTH of our parties since their arguing more for the typeface and less for the stuff in the plan is why we got that B.S. for a plan.  Sure it's great if you can't get insurance, but for those of us who already have it, all we're doing is paying more $ for the same exact services, which certain companies still refuse anyway! 

-I believe in having a military, but I think way too much $ is going to that than to education.  I think education should be a priority in our country.  I think we need to not only teach our kids, but to teach them to think critically and not just follow things blindly.  If the Republicans get their way, we'll just become another middle east, with a bunch of rich idiots preaching their version of religion to a nation of starving illiterates.

-Freedom of Religion.  If you place a religious statue on your lawn, that's your freedom.  It doesn't violate my freedom to look at it, and it violates yours if I stomp it.  Also, if you're paid to do a job, you do the job or GTFO.  If your faith condemns it, then you need to leave and find another job.  Refusing service based on belief is B.S. and grounds for automatic firing.  If it's your business, then don't cry about going out of business.  If you're in the medical, etc. field, you're being paid to treat, so do your fucking job!  Finally, I think that any bill that attempts to get passed for religious reasons automatically falls flat.  If you want a ban on jaywalking for safety issue, fine.  But if some line in your so-called holy book condemns it, tough shit.  Just because you call it your Good Book doesn't mean it's good for everyone.

-Same-sex marriage.  100% legal.  The same for adoptions, etc.

-Pro-choice, anti-stupidity.  And if you're pro-life, causing car wrecks by sticking signs in drivers' faces or bombing clinics isn't covered in your freedom of speech.  We can't prove there is or isn't a god, we can't prove a clump of cells is or isn't alive.  The already-living take priority. 

-Prostitution.  Legalize it, but regulate the hell out of it. 

-Freedom of Speech.  I have a couple of exceptions to this.  First, I don't believe we need to know every move our troops overseas are making, and I especially don't need to know the exact coordinance of a military unit that is sneaking up on terrorists *coughGeraldocough*).  Also, I don't believe Penthouse belongs in an elemtary school library. 

-You have the right to give your $ to your political agenda/person, but we have the right to know who you are, what you gave the $ to, and how we can boycot your sorry ass if you did so to take rights away from other people.  If you're a church, and you use your tax-exempt $ to fun some politcal cause, you lose your tax exempt status. 

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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2012, 12:38:49 pm »
Overall, I'm some sort of left wing libertarian. I lean a little towards the liberatian socialist school of thought(Yes, I do love Chomsky). I've gotten to the point in my life where I really don't care what tax system is in place, as long as there is some sort of social safety net in place. Even economists like Friedman and Hayek, who the right worships, were in favor of some form of safety net.

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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2012, 04:59:10 pm »
Politically speaking, I'm a populist, I believe that, first and foremost, the people should have the ultimate say in who stays in office.  Now, that doesn't mean that, if you've got more money than the next guy, your vote should count for more, everyone's vote should be equal, one vote to one person, and they are all equal in measure and value.

Philosophically speaking, I'm an ethical hedonist.  Do as you will, so long as you don't harm anyone or infringe on their rights in the process.
That's very nice, but it keeps a blind spot on the importance of money. The ruling class has a bigger acces to media thanks to their money. If it is not that they simply own the media, they can at any time buy some media time. And by this influence the public opinion millions of times more easy than the poor. So a rich person is not equal to a poor person.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2012, 04:44:04 pm »
I believe that the First Amendment is first for a reason. Freedom of speech or religion should not be curtailed. Similarly, religion has no place in politics. We should not be basing our laws on religious beliefs.

In general, I favor a more active central government. On foreign policy, I tend to side with conservatives. Even after learning about all the nasty things the US government has done, I still tend to support intervention, provided that it's for the right reasons, and is done smartly.

On domestic policy, I'm generally liberal. I support gay rights very strongly. Abortion, I'm more conflicted about. And yes, my own religious beliefs are a factor. I do support easy and widespread access to contraception.

On economic policy, I'm a pragmatist. Here's my solution for economic problems:
1. Get a bunch of economists.
2. Lock them in a room for a month.
3. Implement their solution.
4. If it works, yay! If not, shoot them and bring in the next bunch.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2012, 04:48:04 pm »
-I support Fairtax.

God luck trying to pay for everything else.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2012, 12:05:27 am »
My problems with taxes such as the fair tax, is 1. the prebate is somewhat cheap, 2.so are we going to get rid sales taxes at both the state and local level, because there are some areas of the country where sales tax is close to 10%, while other areas have very little. If we switch to any type of flat tax, I would like to see a "pro-family" flat tax where food items still would be tax free.
I'm not really for any type of regressive tax, but I've gotten to the point in my life where I really don't give a shit, and I'm sick of hearing people whine, because 49%of people don't pay federal income taxes, blah,blah,blah. The thing is even if we were to go about doing this the whiners would still bitch. We've reformed "welfare" to the point that it's a jobs programs, and they still bitch. I've more or less have given up on this country, and I'm at the point that I really don't think anyone deserves any kind of social safety net, and I'll like to see the country burn more or less. Sorry for the rant.
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Re: What are your political beliefs?
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2012, 12:33:51 am »
Well, at least the southeastern part. Which receives more welfare than pays taxes.
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