The DOMA/Prop-8 Decision

[dpareja]

I just woke up so I am not understanding this

Is gay marriage legal now or not?

DOMA's portion about the federal government defining marriage as a man and a woman is gone. So, it must now recognize all legal marriages. However, states can still refuse to acknowledge same-sex marriages from other states.

Prop 8 was thrown out on standing, and sent back to a lower court with orders to dismiss the appeal, meaning gay marriage should be legal in California.

Yes, this.

Also, told y'all that Kennedy was our guy

Sort of. Partially striking down DOMA is one thing, but he stopped short of issuing a sweeping ruling on same-sex marriage bans... which is more or less what he said he'd do in Lawrence.

[Veras]

I don't think that the IRS can be made to return the estate taxes collected from same-sex widow(er)s because it was perfectly legal to collect them at the time, and retroactive application of the law is dicey at best. It might not have been right, but it was legal.

Law isn't my strongest area of politics, so I could be wrong here, but I don't see why not.  The law wasn't repealed, it was struck down as being unconstitutional, and therefore illegitimate.  I was under the impression that Edith Windsor, the original plaintiff in the DOMA case, was suing to get back the $363,000 in estate taxes that she wouldn't have had to pay if her partner had been a man.  If I understand correctly, the court has agreed that the law was discriminatory, and she shouldn't have had to pay, implying that the money will be reimbursed.  If I'm right, other gay couples who have been negatively financially affected would have to bring suit to request that their money be reimbursed.

Can anybody with a law degree verify/invalidate this?

[Meshakhad]

It seems to me that what we do now is move the Prop 8 legal team to a state with a ban on gay marriage, and start all over again. Someplace with a hardcore anti-gay government that will fight tooth and nail.

[shykid]

Male queers are coprophiliacs. This hallmark of deep perversion has been demonstrated over and over as these deviants smear themselves, rim each other, and seek hookups with other queers in filthy public restrooms where the stench serves as their aphrodisiac. Appropriate sanitation is completely lacking in their makeup. -Neoliberalnot

Already attributing their sick fantasies to others, I see.

[EvilEdwin]

It's the end of the world over at Rapture Ready...Well they'd like it to be!

[shykid]

It's the end of the world over at Rapture Ready...Well they'd like it to be!

Nothing new there.

[dpareja]

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Hopefully we will be out of here soon since world is accepting same sex marriage everyday....

It seems the majority of the people can't do enough to bring on God's wrath. The only good thing in this is is does indicate just how near the rapture is. Rebellious men and women in the hands of an angry God, I'm glad I won't be around to see the consequences.

Here's a link, but on Foxnews, they say the Supreme Court has upheld the lower court's decision to strike down Prop 8. I guess this is the end of marriage as we know it

I just cannot believe we are at this place in history. I am just shocked. I am so upset about where we have come. The Lord's words are in my heart...take heart for I have overcome the world. Praise the Lord that He is still on the throne and none of this has come as a surprise.

Well, well. No big surprise here! Wasn't it obvious that this would be the decision?! It truly is remarkable to watch the supporters of this talk. Unbelievably delusional. God has given them and our country over to a reprobate mind. I really wonder how long God can wait to give us His judgment. It seems to me that we are far beyond what Sodom and Gommorah ever were! It does make me sick though. How I long to be out of here! Come Lord Jesus, come!

What we will see come to fruition:

~The Supreme Court's decision will have an impact like as Roe v Wade and will not be overturned.
~Churches will be forced to perform same sex marriages.
~First responders will be forced to attend Gay Pride parades.
~Employees will be forced to attend sensitivity training or lose their job.
~Pastors will be jailed for preaching against homosexuality.
~Christians will feel the scorn of this culture unlike any time in the US history.
~Christians will be scrutinized by insurers and will be denied benefits.
~Christians will be unfairly taxed through an IRS audit of the church.

Remember that Noah had to face his tormentors for 100 years before God sent the flood.

Oh yeah, I think you are right on! Can't you just feel the heaviness of all that is coming in our country (and world)? It sure seems to be happening so fast now, all of the depravity. It seems like all areas, political, social, economic, etc., are speeding along that Jesus hopefully comes for us soon. Oh yeah, not to mention all that's going on in the middle east!

I was thinking what kinds of new persecutions Christians would face because of these decisions. Your list is comprehensive and I agree with you. It will probably soon be against the law to witness for Christ as the gays may try and make it a hate crime and make Jesus a symbol of hate toward them, instead of love like we know it! But they will never stop us from witnessing, it is part of our new born again nature to desire to spread the gospel of Christ, Praise Jesus, Even so come quickly Lord.

I just had a discussion with a lady the other day, and in our conversation she mentioned that she was gay and that God made her that way. This is the common misconception that i am seeing more and more all the time. This is their way of justifying their homosexuality by blaming God for making them what they are.

[shykid]

I just cannot believe we are at this place in history. I am just shocked. I am so upset about where we have come. The Lord's words are in my heart...take heart for I have overcome the world. Praise the Lord that He is still on the throne and none of this has come as a surprise.

"None of this comes as a surprise to me, but I am shocked by what happened."

...lol

[mellenORL]

What we will see come to fruition:

~The Supreme Court's decision will have an impact like as Roe v Wade and will not be overturned.
~Churches will be forced to perform same sex marriages.
~First responders will be forced to attend Gay Pride parades.
~Employees will be forced to attend sensitivity training or lose their job.
~Pastors will be jailed for preaching against homosexuality.
~Christians will feel the scorn of this culture unlike any time in the US history.
~Christians will be scrutinized by insurers and will be denied benefits.
~Christians will be unfairly taxed through an IRS audit of the church.

Remember that Noah had to face his tormentors for 100 years before God sent the flood.

~Christians will be disappointed when nuthin' like that happens. Must feel like the end of the world, to be ignored.

Emo drama queens.

[Barbarella]

Delicious, like Amrita of the Devatas!


I used a different version because, IMHO, these Tea-brains are about as "Republican" as Ghengis Khan (and others belong to parties like 'Constitution' & 'Libertarian').

[Her3tiK]

What we will see come to fruition:

~The Supreme Court's decision will have an impact like as Roe v Wade and will not be overturned.
~Churches will be forced to perform same sex marriages.
~First responders will be forced to attend Gay Pride parades.
~Employees will be forced to attend sensitivity training or lose their job.
~Pastors will be jailed for preaching against homosexuality.
~Christians will feel the scorn of this culture unlike any time in the US history.
~Christians will be scrutinized by insurers and will be denied benefits.
~Christians will be unfairly taxed through an IRS audit of the church.

Remember that Noah had to face his tormentors for 100 years before God sent the flood.

~Christians will be disappointed when nuthin' like that happens. Must feel like the end of the world, to be ignored.

Emo drama queens.

I really want to tase them every time they whine about being persecuted, just to make 'em honest.

[Alehksunos]

Since when had Christians ever experience scorn in US History?

[Askold]

Since when had Christians ever experience scorn in US History?

Have you forgotten? There was a time when yankees were vary of catholics. In fact when JFK was on his presidential campaign he had to reassure the voters that just because he is a catholic it does not mean that the pope would rule the country through him.

It wasn't quite opression but there was an underlying resentment. (Which apparently still remains in some regions of USA.)

[Damen]

DOMA shot in the face and Prop 8 dismissed?

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Time for tears from Free Republic:

As “natural” as 2 faggots producing and giving birth to a child...oh wait, they can’t do that, can they? -max americana

Male queers are coprophiliacs. This hallmark of deep perversion has been demonstrated over and over as these deviants smear themselves, rim each other, and seek hookups with other queers in filthy public restrooms where the stench serves as their aphrodisiac. Appropriate sanitation is completely lacking in their makeup. -Neoliberalnot

I think the push for polygamy is already underway. Polygamy will be even easier to sell and move along quite quickly.

Then it may be animals.... my dog looks nervous, but I know he loves me. LOL -Gator113

Roberts is a HUGE closet case, I think we all know that by now. He’s got a beard wife he used for political ladder climbing. You know, before it was “in” to be a homo.

Perverts have always infiltrated the ruling elite class of every society.
 Of course the Supreme Court is going to come down in their favor because that’s who they surround themselves with on a daily basis. These are their friends, clerks, intellectuals etc.

Maybe they should move SCOTUS to a building in Kansas to get away from the decay of leftest city thinking. -snarkytart

What does the Supreme Court have against sexually normal persons?? Why do they discriminate against straights?? I would never allow a chilld to use the restroom in the courthouse. -elpadre

Next up, animals and harems - it’s all good says SCOTUS. -NonValueAdded

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From http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?187252-DOMA-has-been-defeated

Hopefully we will be out of here soon since world is accepting same sex marriage everyday....

It seems the majority of the people can't do enough to bring on God's wrath. The only good thing in this is is does indicate just how near the rapture is. Rebellious men and women in the hands of an angry God, I'm glad I won't be around to see the consequences.

Here's a link, but on Foxnews, they say the Supreme Court has upheld the lower court's decision to strike down Prop 8. I guess this is the end of marriage as we know it

I just cannot believe we are at this place in history. I am just shocked. I am so upset about where we have come. The Lord's words are in my heart...take heart for I have overcome the world. Praise the Lord that He is still on the throne and none of this has come as a surprise.

Well, well. No big surprise here! Wasn't it obvious that this would be the decision?! It truly is remarkable to watch the supporters of this talk. Unbelievably delusional. God has given them and our country over to a reprobate mind. I really wonder how long God can wait to give us His judgment. It seems to me that we are far beyond what Sodom and Gommorah ever were! It does make me sick though. How I long to be out of here! Come Lord Jesus, come!

What we will see come to fruition:

~The Supreme Court's decision will have an impact like as Roe v Wade and will not be overturned.
~Churches will be forced to perform same sex marriages.
~First responders will be forced to attend Gay Pride parades.
~Employees will be forced to attend sensitivity training or lose their job.
~Pastors will be jailed for preaching against homosexuality.
~Christians will feel the scorn of this culture unlike any time in the US history.
~Christians will be scrutinized by insurers and will be denied benefits.
~Christians will be unfairly taxed through an IRS audit of the church.

Remember that Noah had to face his tormentors for 100 years before God sent the flood.

Oh yeah, I think you are right on! Can't you just feel the heaviness of all that is coming in our country (and world)? It sure seems to be happening so fast now, all of the depravity. It seems like all areas, political, social, economic, etc., are speeding along that Jesus hopefully comes for us soon. Oh yeah, not to mention all that's going on in the middle east!

I was thinking what kinds of new persecutions Christians would face because of these decisions. Your list is comprehensive and I agree with you. It will probably soon be against the law to witness for Christ as the gays may try and make it a hate crime and make Jesus a symbol of hate toward them, instead of love like we know it! But they will never stop us from witnessing, it is part of our new born again nature to desire to spread the gospel of Christ, Praise Jesus, Even so come quickly Lord.

I just had a discussion with a lady the other day, and in our conversation she mentioned that she was gay and that God made her that way. This is the common misconception that i am seeing more and more all the time. This is their way of justifying their homosexuality by blaming God for making them what they are.

Their tears please me as well.

[mellenORL]

Since when had Christians ever experience scorn in US History?

Have you forgotten? There was a time when yankees were vary of catholics. In fact when JFK was on his presidential campaign he had to reassure the voters that just because he is a catholic it does not mean that the pope would rule the country through him.

It wasn't quite opression but there was an underlying resentment. (Which apparently still remains in some regions of USA.)

RR's don't count "papists", IIRC.

And you are right about the anti Catholic history here. I have one of those prototypical Catholic girl names, my mother was a Mary Elizabeth, my aunt was a Ann Marie....but the family on that side were Methodists, for some strange reason. A little digging around in some ancient family photos and letters and old family bible birth/death entries, and voila! The truth. My mother's great grand parents converted, so as to avoid social shunning before moving to south Georgia, and so assure the success of their rail shipping service company.