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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3480 on: August 14, 2013, 07:24:08 pm »
While I'm not in favour of having obscenity laws on the books and I don't subscribe to the view that porn or even sexual humiliation/consensual degradation is inherently misogynistic, it's really difficult to ignore the overtones of misogyny in some adult films, and Max Hardcore's stuff definitely falls into that category due to the overall tone of the movies.

And just so we're clear here, the obscenity charges weren't filed due to the BDSM, but because actresses in several films (all of whom were over 18 in real life) played characters who were explicitly stated to be as young as 12 -- hence child porn charges initially being tacked on as well, before being dismissed. Regardless of whether or not you feel that simulated pedophilia (whether cartoon or using adult actresses) should be illegal, it's still not quite the same thing as bringing up charges against someone for BDSM or extreme kink.

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He was never, ever tried for rape, which means it's unlikely that he actually did anything wrong

Him not being tried for it hardly proves that he's never sexually coerced or abused any of the the actresses who have worked for him. Several of them have come forward stating that he did things to them that I would absolutely describe as sexual abuse, and while it's possible that they're lying, it's rather absurd to assume that he's innocent of these accusations based solely on his never being taken to court over it.

For one thing, sexual assault laws are sometimes lacking when it comes to certain acts of sexual abuse, particularly when you get into the grey area of consent. Moreover, it's fairly common for law enforcement to fail to follow through on cases involving sex workers, as they're extremely difficult to try in court and society tends to have some rather unfortunately views regarding the rights of people who are paid to have sex. Finally, it's rather daunting for an adult film actress to go through with filing charges and enduring a trial due to the high risk of backlash from the industry and society in general; going up against a famous, well-connected guy like Max Hardcore when you're a fairly unknown young actress would be pretty terrifying, I'd imagine.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3481 on: August 15, 2013, 12:49:51 am »
You raise good points about the lack of charges. That said, I see all porn that isn't child porn as equally fine, even if it's simulated child porn.
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« Reply #3482 on: August 15, 2013, 01:08:10 am »
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3483 on: August 15, 2013, 01:09:26 am »
You raise good points about the lack of charges. That said, I see all porn that isn't child porn as equally fine, even if it's simulated child porn.

I'd also point out snuff (non-simulated) and other types of sex crimes that have been filmed as porn. If it's simulated and the actors are there willingly (and adults, duh.) then I have no problem with porn. That is to say that I have no problems with it existing. I personally will not watch stuff like, let's say anything that includes excrement etc.

But just because I don't like it is not a reason to ban it.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3484 on: August 15, 2013, 01:29:30 am »
You raise good points about the lack of charges. That said, I see all porn that isn't child porn as equally fine, even if it's simulated child porn.

I'd also point out snuff (non-simulated) and other types of sex crimes that have been filmed as porn. If it's simulated and the actors are there willingly (and adults, duh.) then I have no problem with porn. That is to say that I have no problems with it existing. I personally will not watch stuff like, let's say anything that includes excrement etc.

But just because I don't like it is not a reason to ban it.
Agreed. I don't like shit or puke or piss, but I think it's fine. I don't consider legit unwilling stuff okay.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3485 on: August 15, 2013, 09:01:43 am »
I'm not saying that simulated child porn (or fake snuff and rape porn, for that matter) should be illegal, just that it's a more complex issue than depicting BDSM and other non-mainstream sex acts between consenting adults, particularly when the current laws on the matter are rather murky. Like I said, I'm not a fan of obscenity laws in general.
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« Reply #3486 on: August 15, 2013, 06:33:09 pm »
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Good job, cartoonist. It's not like these programs started under Bush, nope. Of course that doesn't excuse Obama for continuing, and in some cases expanding those programs.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3487 on: August 15, 2013, 08:10:15 pm »
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Um the ACLU is angry at PRISM

Remember, this sort of images are made for people who have extremely ignorant preconceived notions about the ACLU and will never do their own research. Simply typing in PRISM and ACLU into Google will debunk this cartoon, but it's target audience isn't going to to do that.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3488 on: August 15, 2013, 08:12:42 pm »
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Um the ACLU is angry at PRISM
Good job, cartoonist. It's not like these programs started under Bush, nope. Of course that doesn't excuse Obama for continuing, and in some cases expanding those programs.

Not only that, but the ACLU has remained consistent in opposing the programs under Obama as well, and very little research is required to realize this (a quick Google search will debunk this cartoon). But, as I side in my previous post, the target audience of this cartoon is not going to do research because they've been conditioned to hate the ACLU and blindly accept any negative things said about them as true, even if evidence points to the contrary.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3489 on: August 16, 2013, 03:16:22 am »
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3490 on: August 17, 2013, 06:52:23 pm »
Honestly, every but the ACLU button is pretty much bang on. Maybe its just the people I've met, but there seem to be a number of Democrats who "trust" Obama to do the right thing that would have/were deeply uncomfortable with Bush having (what some sources have lead me to be believe) fewer unconstitutional uses of power in his toolbox.

Me? I expect more out of a guy who used to teach constitutional law.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3491 on: August 18, 2013, 11:30:08 pm »
I was mostly criticizing the ACLU button. 

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« Reply #3492 on: August 19, 2013, 04:29:55 pm »
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3493 on: August 19, 2013, 04:51:17 pm »
That's the shittiest and douchiest edit I've seen in at least a week.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #3494 on: August 19, 2013, 04:52:14 pm »
I don't suppose you have a link to the original? I can't find it.
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