Oh my. The fallacies and red herrings are strong. I must use the force logic.
The way you talk about principals rather unintentionally it seems revealed more than you think it does.
I have not seen Hillary go through anything that the white men Dpareja listed hadn't. And not to mention that Bernie Sanders himself was often put through purity tests alongside the other democratic candidates of 2016 when BLM protested his rally and he let the activists take over the mic he was scheduled to speak on. A lot of what you're regurgitating is strawmen against progressives made up by the (center-right) DNC.
Bernie was a better choice overall because he was more inspiring, and gave off the vibe the people could trust him to represent our interests. Even if he held positions certain subgroups of voters wouldn't fully agree on. You think Bernie didn't get heavy scrutiny though? Really? Were we watching the same election?
It really feels like you care more about loyalty to a party that would just as soon sell you out if people to the right of them paid them enough money.
No. A lot of what I am arguing is what people argued on here ad nausea years ago. They said Hillary would be Republican-lite, or just as bad, or that Trump would rile up progressives and bring about a revolution sooner, or that Trump himself was more progressive. Since Hillary and Trump weren't in office, these arguments that they made were hypothetical, counter-factual, and could not be argued. Now, years later, I could really go for some Republican-lite, and so could anyone who enjoys the right to contraception, right to abortion, same-sex marriage, racial equality (particularly as interpreted through the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment), labor-rights, fairly drawn election districts, overturning citizens united, and a fair tax code. Trump said he would appoint judges to overturn the disastrous Obergefell decision, and now he can.
Hillary is still being subjected to this selective purity on this board. Hell, whenever I bring her up, or whenever she's spotted in the New York woods and Dpareja is upset that she's fucked off the grid, Hillary is inevitably labeled a "milquetoast establishment democrat" because of a spurious review of her record. In contrast, those white men that Dpareja mentioned are only brought up as whataboutism. Essentially, "what about these inapposite criticisms that progressives leveled against these people for reasons largely unrelated to their record." Whataboutism is powerful.
And to clarify, AGAIN, I am not arguing Bernie was bad, but that he, like everyone else, isn't perfect. So these arguments about Bernie being "better" or "more inspiring" or more "truth"-ful are just red herrings. I am using him to highlight the selective purity test that one candidate in the last election (and a few non-white, non-penised, individuals who are likely to run in 2020) are being subjected to. I never said "vote D no matter what" or that we should prioritize blind loyalty. I said that these criticisms leveled against her, and others, are unfair, and anyone with 2 brain cells should be able to piece together that a Hillary presidency would lead to more progressive, and ultimately better, policy than a Trump presidency. But Hillary isn't president; she never will be. The most we can do is learn that lesson for 2020 when we hear this nonsense again that Kamala Harris isn't sufficiently liberal for these young, white men that voted for Bernie. Now stop strawmanning.
Anyway back on topic he says July 9th is going to be when he names the new pick, and it could be a woman!
Very progressive of him.
Oh you sweet summer child.
You know what I mean. Hillary was not the more progressive choice just because she was female. She and her supporters had blanket labeled progressives as sexist for not being team #ImWithHer.
You caught me, I totally said that Hillary was more progressive cause vagina, such as right here:
(and to be fair, Bernie is slightly to the left than the others, albeit nominal).... And to take this full circle, Anthony Kennedy.
Oh, wait, no I didn't. You're a liar that strawmanned what I actually said. I made similar claims about Bernie being to the left of Hillary (and otherss) dozens of other times that I don't care to look up. So, try again.
And Dpareja, I left out Joe Crowley because it was 3 A.M and I had a bout of insomnia. You typed five names, I remembered four while typing my point. Don't look into it too hard.
