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If you had the power, would you kill the Trinity?
Gnostic Christian:
--- Quote from: davedan on August 23, 2021, 02:56:38 am ---Deicide - how metal.
Puting aside the fact that Yahweh and the Trinity don't exist.
The answer is no. Thanks.
Edit: Also killing animals? Are you doing it for food or fun. So weird.
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I did it for both food and fun.
It was the life style where I grew up.
Why is that weird, when you either do the same thing or support it to survive, just as I do?
As to not killing the genocidal and imaginary Yahweh, why not?
Work in the real world, if you like.
Can I take it that, if given the opportunity, you would not have put that bomb under Hitler?
Regards
DL
Gnostic Christian:
--- Quote from: Cloud3514 on August 25, 2021, 12:33:43 am ---"Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth."
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The Gods never lived to die, but that aside.
The harm that the mainstream god religions do is quite apparent and to flippantly ignore it or not fight against it shows an inferior immoral character.
Do unto others.
Regards
DL
davedan:
Well the bomb under Hitler didn't work. They missed. At what point would you be justified killing Hitler? Would you be justified the moment before he killed himself in a bunker? Would that have helped? It would have only taken away the ignominy of his suicide.
How can you expect to advance when your morality is just as flawed as the person you are replacing.
Don't get me wrong I am all for killing animals for food. I think we should do it as humanely as possible and that farming practices should be with the minimum amount of cruelty (ie not battery farming etc) but the way you phrased it sounds like you a got real kick out of it.
Frankly there is a big difference between slaughtering a chicken for your Sunday roast and fucking it to death mate. You kind of gave off the latter vibe.
Gnostic Christian:
--- Quote from: davedan on August 29, 2021, 08:13:45 pm ---Well the bomb under Hitler didn't work. They missed. At what point would you be justified killing Hitler? Would you be justified the moment before he killed himself in a bunker? Would that have helped? It would have only taken away the ignominy of his suicide.
How can you expect to advance when your morality is just as flawed as the person you are replacing.
Don't get me wrong I am all for killing animals for food. I think we should do it as humanely as possible and that farming practices should be with the minimum amount of cruelty (ie not battery farming etc) but the way you phrased it sounds like you a got real kick out of it.
Frankly there is a big difference between slaughtering a chicken for your Sunday roast and fucking it to death mate. You kind of gave off the latter vibe.
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So to you, those who tried to kill Hitler, even the good ones, FMPOV, were just like Hitler.
An interesting moral position.
I disagree.
Was that "you" you used the Royal you?
If not, show where that was shown.
That's a good lad.
I love to chat with Moral Cowards and other Christians about morals.
They generally run away.
Regards
DL
Tolpuddle Martyr:
--- Quote from: Gnostic Christian on August 28, 2021, 04:35:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 27, 2021, 07:06:15 am ---
--- Quote from: Gnostic Christian on August 22, 2021, 04:37:35 pm ---If you had the power, would you kill the Trinity?
I have killed many animals. Some with intent and others by accident.
The notion of killing a person, I find abhorrent. Sometimes it is necessary and or just.
After reading reports of God/Yahweh and Jesus killing instead of curing, the opposite of the thing Jesus said he came to do, --- one has to reject and condemn those mass murderers.
Given the Trinity god’s genocidal character, I would gladly kill the Trinity.
Would you?
As Trump would say, Trinity very very bad. Really Bad.
Regards
DL
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It's a bit of a conundrum trying to kill the trinity since none of it's component parts are technically alive. JC got stabbed and left on a Roman torture/PR pole, the Holy Ghost, is well - a ghost and the "father", the bit that can be traced back to Yahweh in the OT doesn't have an origin, doesn't exist in this world and lacks key criteria for living things including physicality and a lifespan.
I mean you could argue that an omni-everything entity is "alive" in a meta Star Trek sense, i.e. "not as we know it" but posing a question as to how one offs an omni everything thingy with three dead components that maybe sorta aren't dead is one of those how many angels dance on pinheads queries that doesn't really have an answer which isn't to say people can't argue about it. It's the internet, people can shitpost about anything!
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You are partially right on the speculative nonsense aspects of the question.
The reality aspects I concede.
The question is a moral judgement call and thus has an end game on that side.
I see it as asking the S.S. if they still love Hitler.
Better still, like asking Christians if they would light the fuse for Armageddon.
When faced with a truth, Christians run for the hills.
Funny if not so sad.
Regards
DL
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As regards Hitler, I can see that as relevant if we're discussing if it's ever morally right to commit murder, even if it's against a tyrant. I'd cautiously argue that yes, it can be but in the case of killing The Trinity I'd need a lot more information, like how much of the OT and the NT is literally true, parable or hearsay.
We all know what Hitler did, there were a lot of witnesses, photographic evidence and physical evidence. When it comes to biblical history, apart from biblical sources, there's not a lot to go on. Aside from the Hebrew people being a minor kingdom who's existence was acknowledged by the Egyptians and forced into provincial status by the Romans. If you wanted to judge the actions of contemporaneous figures from the time of biblical history like Israelite kings, Roman Emperors and Egyptian pharaohs you'd have an easier time of it because it's easier to piece together what their actions were. That has a big bearing on your original question, would you kill the Trinity. You need to have some evidence of what the Trinity actually did before you start talking about justifiable homicide.
More pertinent is whether this person/party of three still exists, if that could be shown to be true then the case for killing them would become a lot stronger if the New Testament is any guide to its plans or motives. If, for example, the Trinity really was planning to enact Revelations with the whole orgy of violence, wine vats filled with bleeding skulls, ruining of the Earth and indefinite imprisonment/torture for most of the world's population then yes, killing would absolutely be justified and you'd have a very strong case for doing so as it's more defensible to kill for self defence than as a punishment for past actions.
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