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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #1470 on: July 25, 2012, 05:15:51 am »
Of course, every group's got its assholes, after all.  That doesn't make the strawman any less glaring, simplistic, or insulting, though.
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« Reply #1471 on: July 25, 2012, 06:26:27 am »

This actually has a good point. If you think eating meat is murder, you think other people are murdering animals.
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« Reply #1472 on: July 25, 2012, 03:28:34 pm »
Excepting, of course, the fact that the human body needs meat.  If you go Vegan, you need to take supplements.  And if you do, well, good for you.  Regardless, the human body is designed for both the consumption of animal and plant matter.  We're omnivores.

Yes, it's sad that animals die so we can consume their flesh, but that's life.  Lions kill and eat their prey.  Bears do, too.  And they don't give a damn about the suffering of the animal they kill.  Some wildcats suffocate their prey, which is a slow, agonizing death.

Some animals don't even wait for their prey to die before they begin eating.

Seriously, the world is a cruel place.  And honestly, compared to other animals, humans as a whole (outside of certain situations which PETArds love to blow up out of proportion) tend to be quite merciful to their prey, aiming for quick, painless deaths.

That being said, we could be standing to eat less meat.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #1473 on: July 25, 2012, 03:33:19 pm »
This actually has a good point. If you think eating meat is murder, you think other people are murdering animals.
Yeah. It's actually perfectly reasonable within their not entirely unreasonable (imo) worldview.

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« Reply #1474 on: July 25, 2012, 06:08:05 pm »
Plants are living things as well. Eating a carrot means killing it.

Of course, there are some folks who go so far as to even limit themselves to eating fruit and other such products that don’t involve killing the plant…
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« Reply #1475 on: July 25, 2012, 06:12:48 pm »
Of course, there are some folks who go so far as to even limit themselves to eating fruit and other such products that don’t involve killing the plant…
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« Reply #1476 on: July 25, 2012, 06:43:25 pm »
Of course, there are some folks who go so far as to even limit themselves to eating fruit and other such products that don’t involve killing the plant…

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« Reply #1477 on: July 25, 2012, 07:48:41 pm »
Yes, it's sad that animals die so we can consume their flesh, but that's life.  Lions kill and eat their prey.

Naturalism fallacy.

Actually, if we're talking about killing things in nasty ways, I have a funny story. Humans have a lot of endurance compared to most animals. So pre-tool humans used to chase after, say, deer until the deer died of exhaustion. Checkmate,
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« Reply #1478 on: July 25, 2012, 08:10:26 pm »
Yes, it's sad that animals die so we can consume their flesh, but that's life.  Lions kill and eat their prey.

Naturalism fallacy.

Actually, if we're talking about killing things in nasty ways, I have a funny story. Humans have a lot of endurance compared to most animals. So pre-tool humans used to chase after, say, deer until the deer died of exhaustion. Checkmate,

Um, humans may have endurance, but we don't have nearly the speed of a deer.  We threw spears at them, then later used slings and bows.
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« Reply #1479 on: July 25, 2012, 08:15:49 pm »
Yes, it's sad that animals die so we can consume their flesh, but that's life.  Lions kill and eat their prey.

Naturalism fallacy.

Actually, if we're talking about killing things in nasty ways, I have a funny story. Humans have a lot of endurance compared to most animals. So pre-tool humans used to chase after, say, deer until the deer died of exhaustion. Checkmate,

Um, humans may have endurance, but we don't have nearly the speed of a deer.  We threw spears at them, then later used slings and bows.

Pre-tool, dude.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #1480 on: July 25, 2012, 08:29:06 pm »
Did anybody else immediately think of zombies at the first mention of persistence hunting?
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #1481 on: July 25, 2012, 08:38:37 pm »
Of course, there are some folks who go so far as to even limit themselves to eating fruit and other such products that don’t involve killing the plant…

*head desks*

A lot of them believe that the "natural" human diet is a frugivore one, based on fruit containing most of the vitamins, etc. that we need, and several other primates sustain mainly on fruit. What they fail to realize is that A) Our teeth are clearly those of omnivores, B) Fruit may contain many of the nutrients we need, but not in realistic proportions, and C) The fact that we are fairly closely related to frugivores hardly means they we're a fruit-only species (and many of those frugivores don't exclusively eat fruit, even if it's their primary food-source). Not to mention that humans are drawn to a variety of food groups for a reason.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #1482 on: July 25, 2012, 08:40:15 pm »
Yes, it's sad that animals die so we can consume their flesh, but that's life.  Lions kill and eat their prey.

Naturalism fallacy.

What?

I'm not saying it as an excuse for cruelly killing animals, but moreso the fact that our bodies are designed to eat meat, and you can't get meat without killing animals.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #1483 on: July 25, 2012, 08:45:49 pm »
Yes, it's sad that animals die so we can consume their flesh, but that's life.  Lions kill and eat their prey.

Naturalism fallacy.

What?

I'm not saying it as an excuse for cruelly killing animals, but moreso the fact that our bodies are designed to eat meat, and you can't get meat without killing animals.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that you can't logically justify something on the basis that lions do it. That's a naturalism fallacy- what is does not necessary equal what ought to be.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #1484 on: July 25, 2012, 09:17:21 pm »
How about we say "Plants have feelings too!" and call it a day on this?