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Community => Entertainment and Television => Topic started by: The Illusive Man on October 31, 2012, 08:26:19 pm
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Dishonored (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored_(video_game)) is as if Deus Ex and Thief had a baby. So much promise, so much potential. All of which spoiled by bugs. MAJOR BUGS!
Lookie at this here screenie shot:
(http://imgboot.com/thumbs-large/KILMAIMBURN/timestampcorruption.jpg)
You might ask, “Why are there no dates on those saves?” This is because the game corrupts time stamps of new and old saves! This includes autosaves and quicksaves too! But that is not the best part:
- Saves are sorted by time and date, when those go so does the sorting! You have to guess which is the one you want.
- Quickload will load the wrong save too. Be sure to always check your saves before you load.
- To temporarily fix this you have to delete all the affected saves.
- If all of your saves are affected then all have to be deleted.
There are hints that this game is not complete either!
(http://imgboot.com/thumbs-large/KILMAIMBURN/noitemname.jpg)
Some keys are missing names.
Take a guess who the publisher is, no its not EA. Here is a hint, they are owned by EA 1.1. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks)
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Wow, Bethesda put out a buggy game. This is so totally surprising.
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whats odd i heard it was stable previously...buggy patch? still not the wrost patch job that one was Ninja Gaiden II on 360 (there was a patch that froze your game after level 11)
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My copy has never had a single problem. Just an excellent, very streamlined game.
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Oh how horrible. A couple glitches~ This game is so bad. 0/10.
Meanwhile Borderlands 2 has two major glitches- 1 resets your badass rank and the other completely resets your character. And there's a virus that they haven't been able to get a cap on even tho they've known about it for a while.
No game is perfect. Shocking revelation, that.
The Dishonored glitches aren't that fucking bad, I'm sorry to tell you.
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On my second playthrough of Dishonored and STILL have yet to encounter a single glitch. And though the game could have been a little longer and with a little better voice acting, the game is still frakking excellent.
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I'm really getting pissed off at this trend that a game is absolutely terrible if it contains even one or two minor glitches, as if every single game out there has to be absolutely flawless.
That's just not feasible.
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Next you'll be telling me the new Paradox game is buggy as fuck.
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Does anyone else see a oddly named thread or one with a terrible joke referring to it's name, see "The Illusive Man" under it and cringe?
I do.
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im you are aware of a video game thread that this could've gone in
ironbite-yes?
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Well, if you have to delete the saves to solve the problem, that doesn't really sound like a 'minor' glitch.
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*sighs and goes back to playing Thief II before work*
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You know, OP, we'd be more inclined to take you more seriously if you weren't so fucking sensationalist all the time.
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You know, OP, we'd be more inclined to take you more seriously if you weren't so fucking sensationalist all the time.
Here, here.
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On top of this, my map randomly becomes a garbled mess and at times, I will pause the game only to have it black screen when unpaused. I still play it for hours at a time and find that it's been one of the few games as of late to hold my attention for more than 30 minutes.
This actually sounds like a problem with your GPU.
Hell, one of the few other games to inspire me to play an entire playthrough straight was Fallout New Vegas, and then before that was Vampire - The Masquerade: Bloodlines. Both of those are so riddled with bugs and hilarity that the former was nearly unplayable and the latter became a cult classic just because of the issues it had.
I actually forgive the team behind New Vegas, they had only six months to make the entire game. Even with that horribly buggy engine, lack of time and funding they tried to pull off some seriously ambitious stuff. Look at Open Freeside (http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/45030) for example. Thanks to the GECK editor all of their ambitions have been moddded back in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVKFrpETRgg
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Damn, that was impressive.
My New Vegas glitched out halfway through- I never got to complete the game. Boone froze in place before I could do his quest, Veronica would randomly gib every time I did a melee attack when she was around, and finally my gun began to fire each time I paused or went to Pipboy- even if I put it away, I'd draw and shoot instantly. So I quit playing- it was just too crazy.
But despite that, I loved the game. Great atmosphere, stellar writing (especially for characters), and a real challenge. The glitches ended my fun, but they didn't ruin it.
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Obsidian usually has brutal work schedules that can change without a moment's notice due to their mercenary contracting. I really respect what they DO put out though. NWN2, Alpha Protocol, and New Vegas are really prime examples of what they can do. What they tend to lack on is polish... and that's generally where the last couple of months go. But they generally are forced to release obvious betas due to the speed people want things to come out. KOTOR 2 suffers from obviously not done due to Lucas Arts being like "Oh, yeah. We're going to move up your time table by three months!"
Kind of hope that Obsidian gets a chance to really do a game... and get some flexible scheduling so they can actually polish it to. BUt that would probably mean that they would have to give up being a 'mercenary' developer.
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Oh how horrible. A couple glitches~ This game is so bad. 0/10.
Meanwhile Borderlands 2 has two major glitches- 1 resets your badass rank and the other completely resets your character. And there's a virus that they haven't been able to get a cap on even tho they've known about it for a while.
No game is perfect. Shocking revelation, that.
The Dishonored glitches aren't that fucking bad, I'm sorry to tell you.
Folks I am not an unreasonable person. I understand how terrible publishes due to their even more terrible owners cause bad things to happen to promising games. As mentioned before New Vegas, Bloodlines and Alpha Protocol (oh god what they did to that one) are major examples.
But when games with a development time of years and normal budget are royally fucked up there is no excuse. I don’t expect perfection, I expect functionality. I will excuse glitches that require a lot more time and money to hunt down (ie physics glitches). Data loss due to save corruption is not one of those as it is easily found via play testing and not reliant of third party libraries or a separate engine.
I will make an exception for the ‘graveyard’ virus. That is not a glitch, it is an outright malicious attack.
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I think you need to finetune your definition of 'royally fucked up'.
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And that, kids, is why you make backups of your save files.
And Illusive, relax! Remember when you claimed XCOM was incomplete when all that was missing were some bonus features?
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You know, OP, we'd be more inclined to take you more seriously if you weren't so fucking sensationalist all the time.
Its Whamburglar from the old forums, he's always been that way.
Also, BL2's gotten a virus? Why wasn't that "reported" on, yet we get a crazed post about a few mild-to-moderate glitches in Dishonored? Di immortales, its like dealing with the media.
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You know, OP, we'd be more inclined to take you more seriously if you weren't so fucking sensationalist all the time.
Its Whamburglar from the old forums, he's always been that way.
I never even made the connection O_o
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You know, OP, we'd be more inclined to take you more seriously if you weren't so fucking sensationalist all the time.
Its Whamburglar from the old forums, he's always been that way.
I never even made the connection O_o
Could be wrong, but the styles are eerily similar, and his previous sig made it more obvious than it does now.
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now that you mention it...
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And that, kids, is why you make backups of your save files.
Unless the file permissions on those saves are changed or they are stored in an archive they will be corrupted. I have to do that every time I start the game.
And Illusive, relax! Remember when you claimed XCOM was incomplete when all that was missing were some bonus features?
Initially, I did not provide enough information. The features listed on Second Wave affect are parts of any given AI package. This includes packages for both the strategic and tactical parts of the game. These parts of all AI packages are disabled because the developers could not bug test them in time. They literally stated this on the official forum. (http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?157581-Regarding-quot-Second-Wave-quot) Thus that aspect of the game is incomplete.
It took a multi-modder effort to get most of them working without causing a CTD. (http://xcom.nexusmods.com/mods/7/) This was no easy task as it required decompiling to create a patched profile.bin.
Also, BL2's gotten a virus? Why wasn't that "reported" on, yet we get a crazed post about a few mild-to-moderate glitches in Dishonored? Di immortales, its like dealing with the media.
To be honest I have yet to play any of the BoarderLands games and have not paid much attention to them. The "virus" is not a virus after all as it does not self propagate. The data loss occurs due to a bunch of assholes running a script to enable hardcore mode during co-op games. (http://www.analoghype.com/video-games/borderlands-2-xbox-360-glitch-reinvokes-hardcore-mode/) Thus when someone dies they lose everything.
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Fallout 2 was also forced out before the developers had time to finish the game. Not only was it really buggy but the files even had much of the stuff they didn't have time to implement. Voice dialog, unfinished map areas they couldn't add and several quests.
Killap's fan patch finally added most of that and it is worth downloading if you ever plan to replay Fallout 2.
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Man, this is nothing by Bethesda standards. Call me when people start getting stuck in the floor.
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Man, this is nothing by Bethesda standards. Call me when people start getting stuck in the floor.
Though I do disagree with Illusive Man on the game being crap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNvP4uvGVzM
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^ I consider that a Good Bad Glitch.
That's actually one of the reasons I love ragdoll physics, period. They're so wonky and hilarious and freak out over the funniest stuff.
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Just a little nitpick here, IM:
You don't have to delete all your saves. The data in the save isn't corrupted. I had the timestamp bug happen, but I had managed to save beforehand (only used one slot besides the autosaves).
I attempted to load the save, and it was fine. So I hit Save, selected a new slot, deleted the "bugged" saves, and continued on. No problems since.
As for the missing item names, I have never encountered that. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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Just a little nitpick here, IM:
You don't have to delete all your saves. The data in the save isn't corrupted. I had the timestamp bug happen, but I had managed to save beforehand (only used one slot besides the autosaves).
I attempted to load the save, and it was fine. So I hit Save, selected a new slot, deleted the "bugged" saves, and continued on. No problems since.
I should not have to do this every time I start the game up.
As for the missing item names, I have never encountered that. Maybe I'm just lucky.
Even the abandoned apartment key or hound pit key? Perhaps you are lucky.
Man, this is nothing by Bethesda standards. Call me when people start getting stuck in the floor.
Though I do disagree with Illusive Man on the game being crap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNvP4uvGVzM
I am going to repeat this again: "I don’t expect perfection, I expect functionality. I will excuse glitches that require a lot more time and money to hunt down (ie physics glitches)." The reason for this is simple, the physics glitches (rag dolls stuck in level geometry) are dependent on a third party physics engine that the developers do not have in depth knowledge of. The save system has no such excuse.
I give the game a 7 out of 10 for versions 1.0 and 1.01. Later versions will get a different score assuming they fix such problems. Crap it is not, especially considering how good the level design is, but it will be much better when they fix the obvious problems.
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What's funny is I know a lot of people who have been playing the game and I've heard no complaints about anything. They say the story is amazing and the mechanics are great but I haven't heard anything negative. I actually want to pick up the game but I'm waiting for Christmas.
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Just a little nitpick here, IM:
You don't have to delete all your saves. The data in the save isn't corrupted. I had the timestamp bug happen, but I had managed to save beforehand (only used one slot besides the autosaves).
I attempted to load the save, and it was fine. So I hit Save, selected a new slot, deleted the "bugged" saves, and continued on. No problems since.
I should not have to do this every time I start the game up.
Considering NonProphet said "No Problems Since", I'm betting you don't have to do this every time you start the game up.
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What's funny is I know a lot of people who have been playing the game and I've heard no complaints about anything. They say the story is amazing and the mechanics are great but I haven't heard anything negative. I actually want to pick up the game but I'm waiting for Christmas.
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The ONLY complaint I've heard is that the campaign is too short. Other than that, pretty much the same here. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Best stealth game since Thief.
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Just a little nitpick here, IM:
You don't have to delete all your saves. The data in the save isn't corrupted. I had the timestamp bug happen, but I had managed to save beforehand (only used one slot besides the autosaves).
I attempted to load the save, and it was fine. So I hit Save, selected a new slot, deleted the "bugged" saves, and continued on. No problems since.
I should not have to do this every time I start the game up.
Considering NonProphet said "No Problems Since", I'm betting you don't have to do this every time you start the game up.
If it can happen anytime and fucks his saves up, then yes, he has to do it every time.
You don't have to look both ways every time when you cross the street, but, well...
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Just a little nitpick here, IM:
You don't have to delete all your saves. The data in the save isn't corrupted. I had the timestamp bug happen, but I had managed to save beforehand (only used one slot besides the autosaves).
I attempted to load the save, and it was fine. So I hit Save, selected a new slot, deleted the "bugged" saves, and continued on. No problems since.
I should not have to do this every time I start the game up.
Considering NonProphet said "No Problems Since", I'm betting you don't have to do this every time you start the game up.
Actually, it started back up (strangely). It's not so bad since I'm only using one savefile (plus the autosave) right now, but it is frustrating. It's only a minor nuisance to me, though; and as I said, the savedata itself isn't corrupt. Just the timestamp data. New save slot + deleting the old one is a small price to pay for continuing the story without restarting.
As for the missing item names, I have never encountered that. Maybe I'm just lucky.
Even the abandoned apartment key or hound pit key? Perhaps you are lucky.
Yup. The Abandoned Apartment key is labelled properly for me. Not sure why or how - maybe a fan-made patch that my roomie found when she installed it? Not sure, but it's fine for me.
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I've had no problems thus far, though I wish it had New Game +, so you could go back and retry missions with all the powers you've unlocked, instead of what you have at that point in the game.