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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1995 on: May 04, 2014, 04:49:25 pm »
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1996 on: May 04, 2014, 05:39:03 pm »
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

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Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1997 on: May 04, 2014, 06:29:52 pm »
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1998 on: May 04, 2014, 08:27:55 pm »
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

What's your point? New Zealand still has Left vs. Right politics, and it wouldn't surprise me if the color associations were the same. In any case, the colors on the shirt clearly show that the shirt was designed to push right-wing politics. If they'd altered the colors for the words "wrong" and "right", then I might agree with your interpretation; as is, the colors used clearly try to link right and wrong specifically to whichever side of the political spectrum you're on.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #1999 on: May 04, 2014, 08:39:29 pm »
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

What's your point? New Zealand still has Left vs. Right politics, and it wouldn't surprise me if the color associations were the same. In any case, the colors on the shirt clearly show that the shirt was designed to push right-wing politics. If they'd altered the colors for the words "wrong" and "right", then I might agree with your interpretation; as is, the colors used clearly try to link right and wrong specifically to whichever side of the political spectrum you're on.

Interestingly, the US is the only country in, I think, the world that associates Red with the right. This is primarily because every other country's left-wing party began life as a socialist trade union - hence, red.

There you go.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2000 on: May 04, 2014, 08:44:25 pm »
That's basically a case of "Haha, the left is wrong and the right is right"
I don't see it that way.  I see it as a case of "let's look past petty, artificial distinctions and worry about what's right".

.........

Did you even pay attention to the colors? Or the ... anything, really.

No offense, UP, but you're blatantly wrong on that interpretation.
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

What's your point? New Zealand still has Left vs. Right politics, and it wouldn't surprise me if the color associations were the same. In any case, the colors on the shirt clearly show that the shirt was designed to push right-wing politics. If they'd altered the colors for the words "wrong" and "right", then I might agree with your interpretation; as is, the colors used clearly try to link right and wrong specifically to whichever side of the political spectrum you're on.

Interestingly, the US is the only country in, I think, the world that associates Red with the right. This is primarily because every other country's left-wing party began life as a socialist trade union - hence, red.

There you go.

The US only associates red with the right because of the 2000 presidential election. Before that, networks chose the colours assigned to each party for the electoral college map at random (though I think they coordinated among themselves to ensure they all used the same colours that year)--one got blue, one got red, and white was for undecided states. After the 2000 election, however, people got so used to looking at that map that the association of blue with the Democratic Party and red with the Republican Party was too ingrained in the public consciousness to have future elections switch the colours.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2001 on: May 04, 2014, 08:47:07 pm »
I was going to get to that.  In most other countries, Red is considered a color of socialism and/or labor.

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2002 on: May 04, 2014, 10:15:20 pm »
And it was here, very much so, until a few years after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Both Dems and GOP used red white and blue altogether as a tricolor motif in campaign buttons, bumper stickers and posters. The TV electoral maps in earlier years were just shaded with patterns, since not a majority of homes had color TVs yet.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2003 on: May 04, 2014, 10:23:14 pm »
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

Then I guess some New Zealanders should be pretty upset that American t-shirt website Patriot Shirt Works* is selling their design and explicitly saying it's a shirt about how the left is wrong.


*Its tagline is "Made in the USA by Americans". Y'know, just in case someone confuses them for New Zealanders.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2004 on: May 04, 2014, 10:28:29 pm »
I thought so too.  Then I saw that this is a New Zealand T-shirt.

Then I guess some New Zealanders should be pretty upset that American t-shirt website Patriot Shirt Works* is selling their design and explicitly saying it's a shirt about how the left is wrong.


*Its tagline is "Made in the USA by Americans". Y'know, just in case someone confuses them for New Zealanders.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2005 on: May 04, 2014, 11:09:45 pm »
What was your source?

It wouldn't be the first website to sell a plagiarised design, but a reverse image search on the pic only brings up the site I posted. Searching for the phrase doesn't bring up much that's of relevance (there's this other shirt from zazzle, which is essentially the same as the other one except with less thought going into the design and is also explicitly about the left being wrong).

In summary: If there is another source, it takes more work than a few minutes of googling to find and that's about as much effort as I care to put into the issue.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2006 on: May 04, 2014, 11:11:27 pm »
It was a blog.  I don't remember very well.  I got this a while back.  I'll let you know if I find it.

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2007 on: May 05, 2014, 11:41:08 am »
It was a blog.  I don't remember very well.  I got this a while back.  I'll let you know if I find it.




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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2008 on: May 05, 2014, 11:56:38 am »
It was a blog.  I don't remember very well.  I got this a while back.  I'll let you know if I find it.





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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #2009 on: May 05, 2014, 12:18:48 pm »
For the first point of that pic...how is pointing out that religious belief is inherently irrational "shaming?"  I mean real shaming, not the bullshit SJW "shaming."
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