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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #705 on: August 20, 2012, 03:35:05 pm »
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/

And what if they rule that it is constitutional?

Then they're out of luck until a similar case comes by the Supreme Court again.

It'll probably be a 5-4 decision either way.

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #706 on: August 20, 2012, 09:40:44 pm »
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/

And what if they rule that it is constitutional?

Maybe I am too much of an optimist, but I cannot see that happening. Appeals courts (such as the USSC) do not, under normal circumstances, hear new evidence. (The exception is when there is a request for a new trial based on new evidence that was not available in the original trial. In that case, they are not retrying the case, only deciding if the new evidence is significant enough to warrant a new trial.) The only evidence appeals courts hear is what was brought up at trial, and evidence is only heard  through the record. (Witnesses do not testify again.)

I followed the Prop 8 trial at the time, and I've read Judge Walker's opinion. The pro-Prop 8 side presented no real evidence in favor of banning SSM. Without such evidence, the appeals court does not have much of a basis to rule in favor of Prop 8.

As an aside, I am not sure that even if the USSC ruled against Prop 8, it would make SSM legal across the country. The 9th Circuit based their ruling on the fact that same-sex couples had marriage rights in CA before Prop 8 passed. It was more an issue of "taking away existing rights" rather than an equal protection issue.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #707 on: August 22, 2012, 10:04:44 am »
The Prop 8 trial will most likely reach the Supreme Court around summer of next year, which means that if we're lucky, the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional and their decision will be affective across the entire country.

http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2011/11/23/where-things-stand-with-the-prop-8-trial/

And what if they rule that it is constitutional?

Maybe I am too much of an optimist, but I cannot see that happening. Appeals courts (such as the USSC) do not, under normal circumstances, hear new evidence. (The exception is when there is a request for a new trial based on new evidence that was not available in the original trial. In that case, they are not retrying the case, only deciding if the new evidence is significant enough to warrant a new trial.) The only evidence appeals courts hear is what was brought up at trial, and evidence is only heard  through the record. (Witnesses do not testify again.)

I followed the Prop 8 trial at the time, and I've read Judge Walker's opinion. The pro-Prop 8 side presented no real evidence in favor of banning SSM. Without such evidence, the appeals court does not have much of a basis to rule in favor of Prop 8.

As an aside, I am not sure that even if the USSC ruled against Prop 8, it would make SSM legal across the country. The 9th Circuit based their ruling on the fact that same-sex couples had marriage rights in CA before Prop 8 passed. It was more an issue of "taking away existing rights" rather than an equal protection issue.

True, although the California Supreme Court ruled on a different basis. It depends on the nature of the ruling.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #708 on: August 23, 2012, 01:59:16 am »


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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #714 on: August 29, 2012, 11:11:50 pm »


Only 500 yards?  You're being far too generous.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #715 on: August 30, 2012, 12:40:43 am »


Only 500 yards?  You're being far too generous.
To be fair, the decent thing to do would be to put said beliefs down like a senile animal.
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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #716 on: August 31, 2012, 11:33:55 am »
Some signs from my local Occupy movement






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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #718 on: September 04, 2012, 02:43:40 am »
Not intentional, but I think it belongs here.

I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Awesome Protest Signs
« Reply #719 on: September 04, 2012, 04:44:21 pm »
Not intentional, but I think it belongs here.



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