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Community => Politics and Government => Topic started by: gyeonghwa on July 19, 2012, 01:11:43 pm
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Here is a lists with the link but I'll copy them here: http://rubyvroom.tumblr.com/post/25671110787/reasons-why-peta-is-terrible
- PETA has a long history of horribly, disturbingly sexist advertisements. (warning: that link is disturbing, seriously.)
- PETA also has a history of racist jackassery like wearing klan hoods to the Westminster Dog Show and comparing it to the Holocaust.
- They also put up billboards in Washington D.C. comparing animal cruelty to human slavery and specifically the American enslavement of Africans.
- This one deserves its own bullet point - they actually sued Sea World under the 13th Amendment. The one that outlawed slavery in the U.S. Yeah. They did that.
- And let’s not forget the whole “Holocaust On Your Plate” ad campaign.
- PETA also loooooooooooves fat-shaming. Example - this recent billboard featuring a.. meat pie coffin? I think? Suggesting that eating animals makes you (horrors!) fat and also kills you? So go vegan? Bonus offensiveness: they put this up next to a mortuary. See also this whole ad campaign centered on fat-shaming: (picture)
- Another recent advertisement claimed that going vegan will send your sex drive into overdrive and you’ll be so potent you’ll actually injure your girlfriend and leave her limping and wearing a neck brace which is awesome and hilarious. I wish I was exaggerating but I’m totally not.
- When a grisly killing spree in Vancouver left 15 women dead, PETA tried to purchase full-page ads in local papers suggesting that this carnage was no worse than the killing of animals for food.
- PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk opposes the use of Seeing Eye dogs and has had at least one dog taken away from its blind owner.
- PETA protests public shelters that euthanize animals, but their own shelter euthanizes most of the animals they take in. Not some. Most.
- PETA is actually right now trying to fight No-Kill legislation in Virginia, because it would prevent their shelter from euthanizing animals.
- PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. PETA paid $70,200 to Rodney Coronado, an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) serial arsonist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory.
- During the past ten years, PETA has spent four times as much on criminals and their legal defense than it has on shelters, spay-neuter programs, and other efforts that actually help animals.
- Right here, from the actual PETA website, is their stance on extremist animal liberation groups that commit arson and violently harass medical researchers: Throughout history, some people have felt the need to break the law in order to fight injustice. The Underground Railroad and the French Resistance are both examples of people breaking the law in order to combat injustice… Anyone can be an activist. It does not take any special skills or superhuman abilities. You just need to care enough about animals to want to help them.”
Also two reasons not on the list:
- PETA exploits lesbian relationships to attract straight men to their cause.
- PETA is willing to reinstate anti-sodomy laws and throw LGBT people under the bus to further their cause.
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- PETA exploits lesbian relationships to attract straight men to their cause.
While I think I know where this is going I have to ask for details on this just to confirm the creep factor, how exactly do they do this?
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Here it is: http://www.shewired.com/news/peta-exploiting-lesbians
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So they're using the objectification and exploitation of women and lesbians in order to attract men to their cause because they think men's thought processes run alogn the lines of, "Wow I should become vegetarian because TITS!"?
It's quite impressive whenever someone manges to be insanley sexist and insulting to both genders at the same time. Well done, PETA.
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So they're using the objectification and exploitation of women and lesbians in order to attract men to their cause because they think men's thought processes run alogn the lines of, "Wow I should become vegetarian because TITS!"?
It's quite impressive whenever someone manges to be insanley sexist and insulting to both genders at the same time. Well done, PETA.
None of which means it doesn't work. But yeah, they do things like this quite a bit. Funny how the people saying we treat animals humanely expects humans behave like animals.
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So they're using the objectification and exploitation of women and lesbians in order to attract men to their cause because they think men's thought processes run alogn the lines of, "Wow I should become vegetarian because TITS!"?
It's quite impressive whenever someone manges to be insanley sexist and insulting to both genders at the same time. Well done, PETA.
None of which means it doesn't work.
Oh I'm sure it works on a select few idiot man-children. But I find the implication that comes from this sort of thing that all men respond to this sort of purile shit rather insulting.
Also, are the sort of people that this would work on really the sort of people you want on your side? Seems to me like there is nothing postive about this for anyone no mater who they are. Other than the "no such thing as bad publicity" aspect of deliberately courting controversy.
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So they're using the objectification and exploitation of women and lesbians in order to attract men to their cause because they think men's thought processes run alogn the lines of, "Wow I should become vegetarian because TITS!"?
It's quite impressive whenever someone manges to be insanley sexist and insulting to both genders at the same time. Well done, PETA.
None of which means it doesn't work. But yeah, they do things like this quite a bit. Funny how the people saying we treat animals humanely expects humans behave like animals.
Well, considering how their founder came right out and said she felt humanity is a virus on the earth, I wouldn't be surprised if many of them felt that animals are superior to humans.
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85% of the animals rescued by PETA ends up dead anyways:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t6rV3U9ZEHM/SgGXtlHrqNI/AAAAAAAATqc/WXoswHJ2oJs/s400/PETAchart.jpg)
And then there is this gem:
Even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we'd be against it.
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While I'm loathe to agree with anything on Tumblr, they do have a point. PETA are a bunch of hypocrites, and anti-human to boot.
As far as the use of animal products, my position remains the same as it always was: I'm not opposed to it so long as the animals are treated humanely while they are alive.
Humans have been using animals for food, clothing, and work since the beginning of civilization, and it's pretty absurd to expect them to stop now. Come to think of it, there's another group of people that PETA conveniently ignores--residents of the developing world who still rely on animals as beasts of burden.
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- PETA is willing to reinstate anti-sodomy laws and throw LGBT people under the bus to further their cause.
Really?
Nice to know that PETA think I'm a slave owner for owning a rabbit and a bunch of rats!
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As an animal rights activist and human rights activist, both those parts of me hate PETA. They're horrible when it comes to human rights, and their insane publicity stunts and bizarro accusations and actions make all us sane animal activists look bad.
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Nice to know that PETA think I'm a slave owner for owning a rabbit and a bunch of rats!
I'm not the slave owner of my dog, I'm the slave, he has me wrapped around his little paw. ;D
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They don't try to go after many rights abuses cause they would require effort like in China live dog skinning goes on a lot them "we're too busy"
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But they're all too happy to use videos of live dog skinning to solicit donations.
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What especially pisses me off is the people who jump on the PETA bandwagon. They go vegan because their favorite musician/actor/whatever did. Think for your damn selves, morons.
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But they're all too happy to use videos of live dog skinning to solicit donations.
There was a case where the Mercy for Animals organization allegedly encouraged an undercover employee to take part in abusing cows in order to gain footage. I've seen a disgusting number of people defend this kind of exploitation by saying it's necessary to inform people about their cause, and that if they don't just stand by and watch abuse happen, nothing will get done anyway, because police don't care about animals. That's not even going into how much footage they post to the public may be edited or doctored.
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What especially pisses me off is the people who jump on the PETA bandwagon. They go vegan because their favorite musician/actor/whatever did. Think for your damn selves, morons.
Those are privileged assholes. Oh it's easy for them to go vegan because some celebrity is, but for the most of us, being vegan is expensive and even potentially dangerous to our health.
Not to say that a person shouldn't be vegan, but the need to respect the reason why other people can't.
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I don't really have a problem with breaking the law, but randomly bombing shit isn't going to change much.
You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship- some anarchist
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I don't really have a problem with breaking the law, but randomly bombing shit isn't going to change much.
You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship- some anarchist
The funny thing about what you said is that while anarchists learned this lesson the hard way in the early 20th century, our own government has yet to understand this.
You know, hearts and minds, and all that. </derail>
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As obnoxious as PETA are, compared to the hard (and psychotic) edge of the Animal Rights movement-like Negotiation is Over and the Animal Liberation Front...lets just say there are even worse people in the ARA movement!
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Yep. PETA are basically "ALF Lite."
More attention needs to be given to sane animal-welfare organizations like the *SPCAs. It pisses me off that PETA draws attention away from them and even gives them a bad rep with their nonconstructive and extremist bullshit.
Also, anyone who knows me knows that I am a total slave to my cat, not vice versa.
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I will say though that remember PETA gives money to the ALF
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I have 95 good reasons to hate PETA
"Washington, DC — Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. "
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/)
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CCF is a "non-profit" shill for the tobacco, alcohol and fast food industries, but in this particular case, nothing they've presented is inaccurate or distorted, and they definitely have the high ground compared to PETA.
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It really says a lot when tobacco shills can claim the moral high ground in this.
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CCF is a "non-profit" shill for the tobacco, alcohol and fast food industries, but in this particular case, nothing they've presented is inaccurate or distorted, and they definitely have the high ground compared to PETA.
This is why I tend to not like this source when arguing with PETA members, because they will point that out in order to invalidate the information that's presented. It's incredibly stupid that they do, because it leaves the impression that PETA and others like it are completely unbiased without an agenda of their own.
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As far as the Holocaust comparison, people who fled Nazi persecution have also made (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Bashevis_Singer) that connection. That's probably why I don't find it as offensive as many others do.
EDIT: In fairness I should make an important note that the mass slaughter of non-human animals is not based on animus toward a particular outgroup as was the case with Nazi Germany, but out of what is perceived to be human necessity. (I say perceived to be because not all human beings choose to live their lives as omnivores although some people cannot afford the luxury of choosing to be vegetarian or vegan. If I were in a Third World country during a famine I'd probaby be in survival mode, more or less.)
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I don't really have a problem with breaking the law, but randomly bombing shit isn't going to change much.
You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship- some anarchist
As far as I'm concerned, breaking the law is acceptable if the law or practice being upheld is immoral (e.g. segregation). Then again I also vaguely remember a similar conversation (http://forums.fstdt.net/lox'd-box/cestle-versus-social-norms/) early in this forum's history...Good tymes.
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I have 95 good reasons to hate PETA
"Washington, DC — Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. "
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/)
Why?
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As far as the Holocaust comparison, people who fled Nazi persecution have also made (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Bashevis_Singer) that connection. That's probably why I don't find it as offensive as many others do.
EDIT: In fairness I should make an important note that the mass slaughter of non-human animals is not based on animus toward a particular outgroup as was the case with Nazi Germany, but out of what is perceived to be human necessity. (I say perceived to be because not all human beings choose to live their lives as omnivores although some people cannot afford the luxury of choosing to be vegetarian or vegan. If I were in a Third World country during a famine I'd probaby be in survival mode, more or less.)
My problem with it is that while they made this campaign, they support BSL, which (ideologically speaking) is more comparable to the Holocaust than the chickens are.
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I only really need two reasons to hate PETA: Hypocrisy, and the complete denial of reality.
The first is rather obvious, such as how they kill the vast majority of animals they "save", or how many of their top people stay alive thanks to medicines developed through animal testing or that contain animal products. That they then have the gall to say "I need my life to fight for the animals" is rather sickening, when you consider they want to stop research that could be used to save countless other lives full of potential. They also seem to totally miss the fact that animal research also leads to new tools to better care for animals.
Of course, they don't actually care about the latter part too much. They don't want animals to be treated better, they want "total animal liberation". As in, their ultimate goal is for humans to have no interactions at all with other animals.
This is where "complete denial of reality" comes into play. The simple truth is, just like all the others, human beings are animals, and are part of the same ecosystems as all those other animals. In many places, humans hunting animals for food is the only thing that keeps the animal populations low enough that they don't eat themselves into the entire species starving. Domesticated animals like dogs, cattle, chicken, and turkey cannot survive without the aid of humans--they're no longer fit for a life that doesn't include us (though to be fair, cats and pigs would get along just fine).
The PETA Wonderland involves countless of species of animals simply all dropping dead. Because whether they admit it or not, humans are a large part of the ecosystem, and our activities are important to the lives of other species. We rely on them. They rely on us. That's just how the planet works. And trying to deny it is fucking stupid.
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As far as the Holocaust comparison, people who fled Nazi persecution have also made (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Bashevis_Singer) that connection. That's probably why I don't find it as offensive as many others do.
EDIT: In fairness I should make an important note that the mass slaughter of non-human animals is not based on animus toward a particular outgroup as was the case with Nazi Germany, but out of what is perceived to be human necessity. (I say perceived to be because not all human beings choose to live their lives as omnivores although some people cannot afford the luxury of choosing to be vegetarian or vegan. If I were in a Third World country during a famine I'd probaby be in survival mode, more or less.)
My problem with it is that while they made this campaign, they support BSL, which (ideologically speaking) is more comparable to the Holocaust than the chickens are.
BSL? To the Google Machine!
EDIT: Okay, so legislation targeting specific breeds. Yeah I never understood the notion of a "dangerous breed." Dogs such as pit bulls get a bad rap just because they're used as tools for fighting other dogs by irresponsible and sadistic owners. I took in an abandoned pit bull and it couldn't have been a sweeter dog. Yeah PETA is hypocritical, and that's enough to tick me off. Throw in a helping of sexist advertising and it sums up their group. (Hot idea, let's exploit one group to save another! Be a vegetarian because Pam Anderson's breasts are massive!) So that's my beef with the group. Well that and they make the animal rights movement look like a joke with their utter failure at constitutional law (http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/09/10361737-killer-whales-denied-anti-slavery-protection?lite)--which I'm sure was mentioned here at least in passing. I love animals and support animal rights. I think the way humans treat them is breathtakingly cruel, but there's no solution in the U.S. Constitution which plainly was meant for...well...Homo sapiens.
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As far as the Holocaust comparison, people who fled Nazi persecution have also made (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Bashevis_Singer) that connection. That's probably why I don't find it as offensive as many others do.
EDIT: In fairness I should make an important note that the mass slaughter of non-human animals is not based on animus toward a particular outgroup as was the case with Nazi Germany, but out of what is perceived to be human necessity. (I say perceived to be because not all human beings choose to live their lives as omnivores although some people cannot afford the luxury of choosing to be vegetarian or vegan. If I were in a Third World country during a famine I'd probaby be in survival mode, more or less.)
My problem with it is that while they made this campaign, they support BSL, which (ideologically speaking) is more comparable to the Holocaust than the chickens are.
BSL? To the Google Machine!
Breed Specific Legislation. It makes owning and breeding certain "aggressive" breeds, like pitbulls and the dog breeds lumped with pitbulls, illegal. Some go so far as to confiscate already owned dogs, and euthanize them. Unlike chickens, which are all used for eggs and meat, these laws only target and persecute specific breeds of dogs.
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Duuuuuuude...if I ever get a dog, its going to be a big dog. Likely a husky. If some motherfucker comes in saying my dog's dangerous and tries to take em away to die, they're going to learn the hard way why man is the most dangerous animal in existence. Dogs can't use weapons.
Unlike PETA, I don't kill animals. I never will, and I find it reprehensible unless the animal in question simply has no chance of living a decent life due to medical conditions which already hamper its life expectancy.
However, I will fight for my pets. To the death, if need be. They're closer to me than most humans are, and I do both view and treat them like they were my own kids. PETA don't like that, they can go back to the asscrack they fell out of, and keep their attention-whoring, money-grubbing, terrorist-funding hands away from me, my pets, and my loved ones.
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I have 95 good reasons to hate PETA
"Washington, DC — Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. "
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/)
Why?
A really fucked up notion of 'Better dead than in chains.'
I can guarantee the six animals my wife and I have adopted over the years would strongly disagree with them because if what they have is slavery, they are pretty damn cool with it.
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
Because somehow going out and surviving on your own is freedom to PETA. Ya know, I'll consider it slavery if my dog decides to run away and I leash him down. But since he keeps coming back and loves to sleep on the bed, I believe he does such willingly
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
Because somehow going out and surviving on your own is freedom to PETA. Ya know, I'll consider it slavery if my dog decides to run away and I leash him down. But since he keeps coming back and loves to sleep on the bed, I believe he does such willingly
Problem for PETA: Not all dogs can survive in the wild. Especially those that have been pets. It would be far more cruel to release a dog into the wild that is used to being served meals rather than fend for itself. If I let my slave terrier go, it'd be mauled by coydogs in a matter of minutes.
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
Because somehow going out and surviving on your own is freedom to PETA. Ya know, I'll consider it slavery if my dog decides to run away and I leash him down. But since he keeps coming back and loves to sleep on the bed, I believe he does such willingly
Problem for PETA: Not all dogs can survive in the wild. Especially those that have been pets. It would be far more cruel to release a dog into the wild that is used to being served meals rather than fend for itself. If I let my slave terrier go, it'd be mauled by coydogs in a matter of minutes.
Was it PETA or some other group that supported killing off those domesticated species that would not survive in the wild?
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
Because somehow going out and surviving on your own is freedom to PETA. Ya know, I'll consider it slavery if my dog decides to run away and I leash him down. But since he keeps coming back and loves to sleep on the bed, I believe he does such willingly
Problem for PETA: Not all dogs can survive in the wild. Especially those that have been pets. It would be far more cruel to release a dog into the wild that is used to being served meals rather than fend for itself. If I let my slave terrier go, it'd be mauled by coydogs in a matter of minutes.
Was it PETA or some other group that supported killing off those domesticated species that would not survive in the wild?
No clue, but it's stupid either way. Every species of animal relies on other species of animals to survive, lots of times in ways people don't realize. For instance, the humble dung beetle helps break down the droppings of large herbivores, which fertilizes the grasses those same herbivores feed on later. No one stops and thinks "zomg, the wild buffalo can't survive with dung beetles", but they, in fact, cannot survive without them.
It's not a bad thing that some animals have adapted to thrive in humanity's presence. It's the natural order of things. Just like the earliest mammals evolved to be small and quick to escape the notice of large predatory dinosaurs, modern animals have to adapt to the major players in their environment.
Certainly, from an ethical standpoint, we could still make a lot of progress in how we treat animals. Only a twisted mind could sit there and say "You know what? Fuck the cows. Let's treat them as shitty as possible before killing them in incredibly painful ways". There's a lot of genuine progress to be made. But the worst thing about PETA and the other organizations that PETA supports is that they turn the idea of animal welfare into a joke, something normal people find hard to take seriously.
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Some PETA vegans have made the argument we should switch animals to a vegan diet too. And then wonders why animals dies when you try. ::)
But more offensive is the thought that PETA is more than willing to take away valuable food source from people who already have a hard time trying to find food. Even to the extent where they believe providing people diary cows is "evil". Fuck that shit.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSLQu-d6ZQ
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
Because somehow going out and surviving on your own is freedom to PETA. Ya know, I'll consider it slavery if my dog decides to run away and I leash him down. But since he keeps coming back and loves to sleep on the bed, I believe he does such willingly
Problem for PETA: Not all dogs can survive in the wild. Especially those that have been pets. It would be far more cruel to release a dog into the wild that is used to being served meals rather than fend for itself. If I let my slave terrier go, it'd be mauled by coydogs in a matter of minutes.
Was it PETA or some other group that supported killing off those domesticated species that would not survive in the wild?
Pretty sure it was PETA. Their view is, even though animals like domestic cows and sheep will die out, it's still our fault because we made them that way. The organization seems to run on "human guilt." Like I said before, Newkirk sees humanity as a cancer, and had herself sterilized in her 20's.
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
Because somehow going out and surviving on your own is freedom to PETA. Ya know, I'll consider it slavery if my dog decides to run away and I leash him down. But since he keeps coming back and loves to sleep on the bed, I believe he does such willingly
Problem for PETA: Not all dogs can survive in the wild. Especially those that have been pets. It would be far more cruel to release a dog into the wild that is used to being served meals rather than fend for itself. If I let my slave terrier go, it'd be mauled by coydogs in a matter of minutes.
Nor can all cats. With one exception, the cats that live with me (contrary to PETA's propaganda, I belong to them, not the other way round) wouldn't be able to survive on their own. In fact, one of them fell out the window today- a noise startled him and he jumped into the screen and knocked it out- and he just stood looking around, and when I went outside, he came right to me. They're not stupid- all of them have had chances to "escape" and they don't want it. They like it here. PETA's just stupid.
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How is it slavery when they literally have to do nothing and get free food and toys out of it?
Does this mean I was a slave until I moved out of my parent's house?
Because somehow going out and surviving on your own is freedom to PETA. Ya know, I'll consider it slavery if my dog decides to run away and I leash him down. But since he keeps coming back and loves to sleep on the bed, I believe he does such willingly
Problem for PETA: Not all dogs can survive in the wild. Especially those that have been pets. It would be far more cruel to release a dog into the wild that is used to being served meals rather than fend for itself. If I let my slave terrier go, it'd be mauled by coydogs in a matter of minutes.
Nor can all cats. With one exception, the cats that live with me (contrary to PETA's propaganda, I belong to them, not the other way round) wouldn't be able to survive on their own. In fact, one of them fell out the window today- a noise startled him and he jumped into the screen and knocked it out- and he just stood looking around, and when I went outside, he came right to me. They're not stupid- all of them have had chances to "escape" and they don't want it. They like it here. PETA's just stupid.
PETA would probably try to compare that to Stockholm Syndrome.
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PETA would probably try to compare that to Stockholm Syndrome.
I believe they already have.
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There's a lot of genuine progress to be made. But the worst thing about PETA and the other organizations that PETA supports is that they turn the idea of animal welfare into a joke, something normal people find hard to take seriously.
This. Absolutely this.
I never realised how moronic PETA is. The sad thing is that they probably mean well. And it's not like factory abuse of animals isn't a serious issue that people need to deal with. Just that PETA isn't the group to do that.
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Then there's how they tried to turn fish into sea kittens. That was just silly and frivolous.
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Then there's how they tried to turn fish into sea kittens. That was just silly and frivolous.
Didn't Stephen Colbert mock that?
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Then there's how they tried to turn fish into sea kittens. That was just silly and frivolous.
Didn't everyone mock that?
fix't
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If fish are sea kittens, then aren't birds sky puppies?
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There's a town in South Dakota called Spearfish (whose official symbol is, well, a fish getting speared) that PETA objected to. They started a campaign to get Spearfish High School to change its name to Sea Kitten High School a few years back. They were naturally laughed into defeat.
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They also had a campaign to make Hamburg change it's name to Veggieburger or something and I think there is a town called
Killfish or something similar Fishkill (The "kill" means creek.) that they protested against, wanting to rename it Fishsave.
Ooh, found them:
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-550557.html
http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1231
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CCF is a "non-profit" shill for the tobacco, alcohol and fast food industries, but in this particular case, nothing they've presented is inaccurate or distorted, and they definitely have the high ground compared to PETA.
This is why I tend to not like this source when arguing with PETA members, because they will point that out in order to invalidate the information that's presented. It's incredibly stupid that they do, because it leaves the impression that PETA and others like it are completely unbiased without an agenda of their own.
When it comes to criticising PETA, the CCF usually cite their sources pretty well, so you can just "cheat" and show them the evidence directly. (The CCF don't have to resort to fear-mongering and [citation needed] bullshit in this case because their opponents already paint themselves in a bad light, no propaganda required.)
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We already have "sea kittens"....they're called CATFISH! *yuk yuk*
Is it me or does a mythical "Sea Kitten" sound cute? It's like some sort of weird anime critter thing, I dunno.....
(http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx200/BarbarellaSteele1975/sinerettajpg_480_480_0_64000_0_1_0.jpg)