Rubbish > Preaching and Worship
Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
dpareja:
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--- Quote from: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 08:41:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 28, 2018, 08:34:05 pm ---Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.
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No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.
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This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.
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Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.
Eiki-mun:
--- Quote from: dpareja on November 29, 2018, 12:48:16 am ---
--- Quote from: Eiki-mun on November 29, 2018, 12:14:33 am ---
--- Quote from: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 08:41:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 28, 2018, 08:34:05 pm ---Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.
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No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.
--- End quote ---
This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.
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Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.
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Which is still not truly free speech. It's freer speech, but it's not free speech. For the record, I'm not a hyperlibertarian myself - I do feel like there should be necessary restrictions on what people are and are not allowed to say. But from a technical standpoint, if you favor any restrictions on speech, you're not really "for free speech".
Skybison:
--- Quote from: dpareja on November 29, 2018, 12:48:16 am ---Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.
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Well of course libertarians don't support FREE speech, that's socialism!
We should just let the free market decide who has civil rights, not the jackbooted thugs of the state re-distribute them.
dpareja:
--- Quote from: Eiki-mun on November 29, 2018, 02:27:25 am ---
--- Quote from: dpareja on November 29, 2018, 12:48:16 am ---
--- Quote from: Eiki-mun on November 29, 2018, 12:14:33 am ---
--- Quote from: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 08:41:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 28, 2018, 08:34:05 pm ---Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.
--- End quote ---
No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.
--- End quote ---
This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.
--- End quote ---
Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.
--- End quote ---
Which is still not truly free speech. It's freer speech, but it's not free speech. For the record, I'm not a hyperlibertarian myself - I do feel like there should be necessary restrictions on what people are and are not allowed to say. But from a technical standpoint, if you favor any restrictions on speech, you're not really "for free speech".
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Sure, but in that case there are very few people who are "really 'for free speech'", since I think there's general agreement even among the most libertarian speech advocates that the four matters I listed are reasonable restrictions on the right, and the main argument is over the precise definitions of each.
Askold:
Saying that you don't support genocide EXCEPT when it is "necessary" is not the same as saying you don't support genocide.
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