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Offline TenfoldMaquette

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Re: Republicans: Let's call birth control abortion!
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 11:40:37 pm »
I'm not saying I agree with that logic, that it's good logic, or that it even holds true for everyone on the pro-life side. It just bugs when that side is portrayed as uniformly illogical, misogynistic, and/or inconsistent. I've known some pro-lifers in my time who honestly and wholeheartedly believed those first two points and were against abortion but not any form of birth control. When life begins is a somewhat subjective point.

Maybe not uniformly, but they do a damned good imitation of it. Most of their positions are based on factual inaccuracies if not outright lies, appeals to emotion, appeals to tradition, and other byproducts of a thoroughly ignorant point of view. Life, such as it is, is the end result of blind, animal fecundity - a mindless impulse to further the species - expressed at any and all cost to the individual. It is imperfect, it is cruel, and leaving it to be expressed without restraint (provided by access to abortion and birth control) leads only to suffering. Every sperm is not sacred, and it's downright bizarre to think it might be so.

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Re: Republicans: Let's call birth control abortion!
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2012, 01:54:06 am »
Yeah, I've heard that argument before, John. It's totally incorrect. Birth control pills prevent implantation of the egg. How people equate that to an abortion is beyond me.
Because if the egg is fertilized, it's a human life! *eyeroll*

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Re: Republicans: Let's call birth control abortion!
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2012, 10:20:32 am »
Basically, both sides are going by the definition of abortion as "deliberately ending a pregnancy, either surgically or chemically."  Both groups believe that pregnancy only naturally ends through either birth or miscarriage.

The difference is where they define the beginning of pregnancy.

The official, scientific definition is that pregnancy begins when the embryo (usually in the blastocyst stage) implants in the uterine wall (generally about a week after conception).  The "pro-life" definition is that pregnancy begins at the moment of conception, because this is when a genetically distinct organism first makes the scene.

This revisionist definition has the effect of classifying any post-coital birth control that prevents implantation as abortifacient, even though it isn't by medical definition.



This discrepancy in the beginning point of pregnancy is probably also the source of my least-favorite abortion propaganda:



The embryo's (two-chambered) heart begins to beat about 3 weeks after the beginning of pregnancy (scientific definition); in other words, 4 weeks after the baby is conceived.  A Beka's textbooks are surprisingly accurate on this score, given the publisher's tendency to ignore facts that do not suit its agenda.  However, a lot of billboards use the "pregnancy begins at conception" idea to sell the tripe you see above.  18 days < 3 weeks.  An embryo 3 weeks post-conception generally is just beginning to develop the spinal cord and a primitive heart tube.  The heart does not yet have any chambers and thus cannot beat.

Besides, born humans don't have two heart chambers--fish do.  We have four-chambered hearts.  The anti-abortion crowd NEVER mentions that the embryo's heart is dramatically different from what it will become over the course of its prenatal development, because they want to push the idea that an embryo already looks like a born baby.  This is also why a six-week-old embryo (dated from conception) is often deliberately mislabeled as being a four-week-old embryo (again, dated from conception); at four weeks, an embryo doesn't look recognizably human yet, and that simply will not do.
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