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Title: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 11:19:38 am
On Fstdt Reddit, there is a user called StellarisJunkie who treats it as his blog and promotes right wing views just like I do here. https://www.reddit.com/r/fstdt/

However a difference is that in one of his posts he seems to be promoting antisemitism while I don’t do that. Nevertheless, I wonder if I should form an alliance with him as part of my plan to restore the true heir to the throne of England because he would probably like to see a reactionary traditional Christian monarchy come to power in Europe and he could help recruit people to my cause with his Reddit posts.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 28, 2018, 03:14:45 pm
Well you smile approvingly at the Spanish Inquisitions treatment of Jews. So are you!

Congrats on working out how to make a sock account you clever boy!
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 03:34:19 pm
Well you smile approvingly at the Spanish Inquisitions treatment of Jews. So are you!

Congrats on working out how to make a sock account you clever boy!

But I put situations like the situation into historical context. The Jews in Spain in that particular time period were bad because they were collaborating with the Muslim invaders. However today, Muslims commit terrorism against Jews so Christians and Jews have a common enemy. And that user on the Fstdt reddit is not my sock account. His posts have a different style. He does not promote the English monarchist cause or Roman Catholicism.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: niam2023 on November 28, 2018, 04:56:30 pm
Thank you for mentioning it.

Whosoever runs the reddit should really get around to boiling that toad.

I don't think its becoming for us to let him turn our reddit into an alt-right blog.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 06:19:18 pm
I made a post on FSTDT reddit to convince him to help my English monarchist cause. https://www.reddit.com/r/fstdt/comments/a1bkrd/how_to_save_england_and_europe/
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 28, 2018, 06:53:43 pm
Well you smile approvingly at the Spanish Inquisitions treatment of Jews. So are you!

Congrats on working out how to make a sock account you clever boy!

But I put situations like the situation into historical context. The Jews in Spain in that particular time period were bad because they were collaborating with the Muslim invaders. However today, Muslims commit terrorism against Jews so Christians and Jews have a common enemy. And that user on the Fstdt reddit is not my sock account. His posts have a different style. He does not promote the English monarchist cause or Roman Catholicism.
Can't you see that in rite contextz ethnic cleansing of da jooz is oh-kay?

No!
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 06:55:19 pm
Well you smile approvingly at the Spanish Inquisitions treatment of Jews. So are you!

Congrats on working out how to make a sock account you clever boy!

But I put situations like the situation into historical context. The Jews in Spain in that particular time period were bad because they were collaborating with the Muslim invaders. However today, Muslims commit terrorism against Jews so Christians and Jews have a common enemy. And that user on the Fstdt reddit is not my sock account. His posts have a different style. He does not promote the English monarchist cause or Roman Catholicism.
Can't you see that in rite contextz ethnic cleansing of da jooz is oh-kay?

No!

The inquisition wasn’t ethnic cleansing, it was forced conversions. And as I said, the Jews were given mercy because they were allowed to leave Spain if they didn’t want to convert.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 28, 2018, 08:34:05 pm
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 28, 2018, 08:41:20 pm
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.

No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Eiki-mun on November 29, 2018, 12:14:33 am
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.

No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.

This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: dpareja on November 29, 2018, 12:48:16 am
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.

No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.

This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.

Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Eiki-mun on November 29, 2018, 02:27:25 am
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.

No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.

This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.

Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.

Which is still not truly free speech. It's freer speech, but it's not free speech. For the record, I'm not a hyperlibertarian myself - I do feel like there should be necessary restrictions on what people are and are not allowed to say. But from a technical standpoint, if you favor any restrictions on speech, you're not really "for free speech".
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Skybison on November 29, 2018, 02:36:22 am
Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.

Well of course libertarians don't support FREE speech, that's socialism!

We should just let the free market decide who has civil rights, not the jackbooted thugs of the state re-distribute them.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: dpareja on November 29, 2018, 03:03:08 am
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.

No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.

This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.

Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.

Which is still not truly free speech. It's freer speech, but it's not free speech. For the record, I'm not a hyperlibertarian myself - I do feel like there should be necessary restrictions on what people are and are not allowed to say. But from a technical standpoint, if you favor any restrictions on speech, you're not really "for free speech".

Sure, but in that case there are very few people who are "really 'for free speech'", since I think there's general agreement even among the most libertarian speech advocates that the four matters I listed are reasonable restrictions on the right, and the main argument is over the precise definitions of each.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Askold on November 29, 2018, 03:42:39 am
Saying that you don't support genocide EXCEPT when it is "necessary" is not the same as saying you don't support genocide.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 29, 2018, 07:42:26 am
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.

No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.

This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.

True but it still means that I don’t believe in persecuting Jews or any group  for the sake of doing so, but because there is a specific justified reason for doing so like in Spain where they collaborated with Muslim invaders. So it means that I am not antisemitic.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 29, 2018, 07:52:45 am
Pretty it up however you like choirboy, forcing a group to ditch their culture to leave the country or forcibly assimilate umder pain of violence, death and torture is is ethnic cleansing. You're just as anti semitic as your pal from reddit, you're probably the same guy but with a different profile.

No I am not anti semitic because I don’t believe in persecuting Jews except for specific situations when it is neccesary like the Spanish Inquisition and I do not think that they are the masterminds behind the global conspiracy.

This reminds me of something a friend of mine liked to say. "If you're in favor of free speech, except in certain situations, then you're not really in favor of free speech. You just have your own ideas of when it should be restricted." If you're against persecuting Jews, except in certain situations, then you're not against persecuting Jews, Jacob. You just have your own ideas of when they should be persecuted. You're in favor.

Well, in fairness on the free speech point, there are situations in which it is restricted, even in the most libertarian speech regimes: libel, slander, direct threats of violence, and--the big one--copyright.

Which is still not truly free speech. It's freer speech, but it's not free speech. For the record, I'm not a hyperlibertarian myself - I do feel like there should be necessary restrictions on what people are and are not allowed to say. But from a technical standpoint, if you favor any restrictions on speech, you're not really "for free speech".

I thought about my views on this, and I realized that it is unlikely for the states to ratify an amendment that amends the first amendment meaning that it is unlikely that Jehovah’s Witnesses will be banned in the US. However when the true heir is put on the throne of England, England will become an absolute monarchy there, so there will be restrictions on speech there and Jehovah’s Witnesses will be banned for being unpatriotic.

So it means that I support free speech in America but not in England.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 29, 2018, 02:50:36 pm
Saying you support only certain historic instances of antisemitism an repression of free speech in foreign countries simply means you're ok with both.

Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 29, 2018, 03:02:49 pm
Saying you support only certain historic instances of antisemitism an repression of free speech in foreign countries simply means you're ok with both.

But I am still not antisemitic because I am not against Jewish people as a whole, I am only against what the Jews in a particular country did during a particular time period. Another example is them getting expelled from England in 1290 by the great King Edward I for disobeying England's law against usury.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 29, 2018, 03:51:25 pm
Saying you support only certain historic instances of antisemitism an repression of free speech in foreign countries simply means you're ok with both.

But I am still not antisemitic because I am not against Jewish people as a whole, I am only against what the Jews in a particular country did during a particular time period. Another example is them getting expelled from England in 1290 by the great King Edward I for disobeying England's law against usury.
ThE JoOz WerE CoNspIring Wit Da MooseLambs aNd tHat'S WhY tHeY hAd to DiE.

Oh, fuck off Jacob!

Saying "I'm not an anti Semite" and "Torquemada did nothing wrong" is trolling and/or stupid. Very likely both.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: dpareja on November 29, 2018, 04:04:54 pm
Saying "I'm not an anti Semite" and "Torquemada did nothing wrong" is trolling and/or stupid. Very likely both.

Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Jacob Harrison on November 29, 2018, 04:20:46 pm
Saying you support only certain historic instances of antisemitism an repression of free speech in foreign countries simply means you're ok with both.

But I am still not antisemitic because I am not against Jewish people as a whole, I am only against what the Jews in a particular country did during a particular time period. Another example is them getting expelled from England in 1290 by the great King Edward I for disobeying England's law against usury.
ThE JoOz WerE CoNspIring Wit Da MooseLambs aNd tHat'S WhY tHeY hAd to DiE.

Oh, fuck off Jacob!

Saying "I'm not an anti Semite" and "Torquemada did nothing wrong" is trolling and/or stupid. Very likely both.

First of all most Jews were not killed in the inquisition. Most either converted or left Spain. Second, as I said in my previous comment, I am not against Jewish people as a whole, just against what a population of them did in Spain in a specific time period. For example, we are against what the Germans did in World War II but we are not against Germans as a whole.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 29, 2018, 05:02:15 pm
Since Jacob does not seem to have learned his lesson about casual bigotry and has decided that apologetics for antisemitism are the new fun thing, he is banned. Again. And given his previous track record the ban is now permanent.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: dpareja on November 29, 2018, 05:18:48 pm
Since Jacob does not seem to have learned his lesson about casual bigotry and has decided that apologetics for antisemitism are the new fun thing, he is banned. Again. And given his previous track record the ban is now permanent.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Art Vandelay on November 29, 2018, 07:19:01 pm
I must say, I'm not thrilled that he got banned right when I was in the middle of fucking with him.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: ironbite on November 29, 2018, 07:55:42 pm
OH NOES!  NOW WHAT WILL WE DO!?

Ironbite-clean up Preaching and Worshiping of all his stupid threads?
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 29, 2018, 09:45:41 pm
Since Jacob does not seem to have learned his lesson about casual bigotry and has decided that apologetics for antisemitism are the new fun thing, he is banned. Again. And given his previous track record the ban is now permanent.
His shtick was worn down to bone anyways, that said watching Art counter troll him and reading his sputtering incomprehension in response was effin hilarious. Ah well, next!
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Art Vandelay on November 29, 2018, 10:04:38 pm
I'm glad someone appreciates my artistic genius. I just wish I could've seen if he'd actually watch a four hour Skyrim video, thinking it'll grant him enlightenment.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Skybison on December 01, 2018, 01:39:50 am
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 01, 2018, 08:23:44 am
I must say, I'm not thrilled that he got banned right when I was in the middle of fucking with him.

I apologise for ruining your fun, but when were you not in the middle of fucking with him?
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: Art Vandelay on December 01, 2018, 08:29:47 am
I must say, I'm not thrilled that he got banned right when I was in the middle of fucking with him.

I apologise for ruining your fun, but when were you not in the middle of fucking with him?

Whenever he suckered me into arguing with him for realsies.

Not that I'm especially proud to admit that.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: niam2023 on December 01, 2018, 08:48:11 pm
I'm a little upset I lost my biggest fan...

And he seemed to be my only reader.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: rookie on December 02, 2018, 08:03:23 am
I'm a little upset I lost my biggest fan...

And he seemed to be my only reader.

I thought you were writing it for him.
Title: Re: Holy shit! I seem to have an equivalent on Fstdt Reddit
Post by: niam2023 on December 02, 2018, 04:23:13 pm
Not really - I just saw something in the setting he fever dreamed into existence, and went with making that.

I've been really wanting more interaction with it.