Simply trying to read a statement and being treated that rudely?
How do you know it wasn’t she who was doing the interrupting? From what I saw and heard, her tone of voice greatly overshadowed the MRAs at any given moment, and it also seems that she got in the lion’s share of dialogue as well. For all we know, she could have whipped out the list while someone else was talking to her, but the video isn’t clear as to who initiated the talking, nor is it clear about whose turn it was to talk.
They wanted her to snap at them like most people would.
Indeed, she “snapped,” and she just continued snapping until the protesters moved to the entrance of the lecture hall where she joined with the chorus of disruptive screaming right outside where the lecture was taking place.
The narrative that she just “snapped” might be true if it wasn’t for this, but given how even the video that Man Boobz posted had her yelling shut the fuck up (just one of many instances, though the Manboobz article would have you believe it was just once) within seconds of the video starting suggests otherwise.
And as thejebusfire pointed out in the F&B thread (hat tip Auggziliary), her "snapping" sounds par-for-the-course for her personality.
"The sad part is she was sining “Cry Me A River” to a story about a man who killed himself, and why he did it."
It's exactly what they wanted her to do to them. Then they could once again claim persecution...
Indeed, after the totally courteous behavior that she and the other protesters demonstrated right outside the lecture hall, how on earth would anybody get the idea that they might be victims?!
And, if you didn’t figure it out by now, yes, I am being sarcastic.
...at the hands of those ever powerful women.
When you say “the ever powerful women,” I was wondering if you would consider GirlWritesWhat/Karen Straughan (Youtube handle and real name, respectivly), Erin Pizzey (founder of one of the first domestic violence shelters in the world), Typhon Blue/Asha James (Youtube handle and real name, respectively), Dr. Elly Tams, TheWoolybumblebee/Kristina Hansen (Youtube handle and real name, respectively), Dr. Tara Palmatier, Suzanne McCarley, Dr. Katherine Young, and Janice Fiamengo to be women?
Do you know what an MRA even is?
It means men’s ri...oh wait, I meant to say that I done don’t know who these MRA types are, because I just can’t gosh darm look up acronyms with Google search, herp derp.
We know that she was bad. We even mocked her in the "social justice advocates are my new fundies" thread. It's even in the title. However that doesn't mean YOU POST HER INFO EVERYWHERE or that MRAs aren't fucking insane.
Also, if you don't think she pulled the alarm, then... why are you mentioning it?
Seriously, this needs explaining to you?
Though, now that you mentioned it, while there is video evidence that she didn’t pull the alarm, she does appear to be going woohoo along with the rest of the protesters when the alarm is pulled.
While your title does acknowledge that this woman isn’t of the sanest mind, the link that you posted is pretending as though she is an innocent bystander while the MRAs at the event were of in a shadowy corner, twitteling their handle bar mustaches, all the while making no mention of the protester’s actions.
Perhaps I am mentioning it in order to juxtaposition the protesters behavior at this event (especially their behavior outside the lecture hall) with the actions of the MRAs specifically at the event, because the narrative that the MRAs were crazier doesn’t hold up to video evidence.
Also, I say MRAs “specifically at the event” for a reason. I mean, one can comb through the comments section of a feminist blog, cherry pick misandrist comments, and then proclaim that these commenters represent the whole of feminist. Of course, some might consider that dishonest, because it is.
One can also point to anecdotal instances of self-proclaimed feminists stalking and/or doxxing their critics, and then proceed to proclaim that these individuals are representative of the whole of feminism. of course, some might consider that dishonest, because it is.
Whenever a self-proclaimed feminist says or does something that is universally frowned upon, they are dismissed as “redscum” that are not to associated with true, rational feminist (and such dismissing does seem to sound like a variant of the No True Scotsman fallacy). Yet, when a self-proclaimed MRA (or just someone who is assumed to be an MRA) says or does something that is universally frowned upon, many people around here don’t seem to afford the movement the same luxury of distinguishing between gender egalitarian MRAs and self-proclaimed MRAs that are engaging in misogyny.
That said, doing a quick search of A Voice for Men (the group that many MRAs at the event seem to be associated with), on the main page, I found three quotes. Of these quotes, all of them are from commenters.
The thing with MRAs is that their points aren't actually their points, they're just distractions. Like when they talk about male suicides and DV, MRAs hardly make any effort to actually HELP men who suffer from that. They just use it to distract from feminist issues. They really don't care about men's rights, they just bash women and feminism and use men's issues as a shield from criticism.
And the strawman comment of the year goes to...
Any examples that don’t include a blog commenter here and a forum poster there?
In regards to the bolded part: What about the efforts of Erin Pizzey (as mentioned above, a founder of one of the first DV shelters in the world), and Earl Silverman (who recently killed himself soon after the closing of his male victim DV shelter due to a lack of personal funds and grants, grants that female-only DV shelters don’t seem to have a problem getting)? Do they “hardly make any effort to actually help men”?
I know that men have issues. Feminists know this too. However the premise of the MRM is that feminism is wrong. That's not the "fringe" people, that's the actual core of the movement. I mean, look at the leaders of major MRM sites, like AVFM.
While I, too, don’t care for how MRAs paint feminism with a broad brush, I also don’t like how feminist paint the MRM with a broad brush either.
The irony is that the true "fringe" in the movement are the few who are introduced to the movement thinking it's about saving men from their issues, and don't realize that actual leaders are crazy misogynists. They don't bother to help men at all*. They think equality = beating women and making fun of their looks, simply because men can suffer from DV, rape, and societies beauty standards too.
Please find one article on the AVfM article that advocates pre-emptive assault of women.
The issues that they talk about are actually things that feminists don't even support, and try to help too. Of course there are radfems, but they don't run much in the feminist movement.
I don’t know how to quantitatively asses the bolded statement, but radfems don’t seem too hard to come across.
Things like men being expected to pay for meals and lead the house are the faults of patriarchy, the thing that feminism is trying to stop.
Some feminist do try to help, and some feminist only pay lip service and/or put men’s issues on the back burner (I guess the latter found out that sarcastically stating “what about the menz” doesn’t seem to make for good PR), hence, why some people, men and women both, who want men’s issues to be put at the forefront look at many feminist organizations as being ineffective in that endeavor, especially if a feminist organization happens to support the, quite frankly, misandrist Duluth model for domestic violence response.
*Unless this counts as helping men:http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/03/frivolous-law-suit-dismissed/
The chair part, no. Men’s only gym sessions? That depends if there exist women’s only gym sessions. As for disproportion of advertising for women’s services vs. men’s services: That depends upon if we are talking about, say, bulletin boards with ads from private student organizations, etc. or whether we are talking about advertising by the university itself.
As for the whore remark.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whoreDefinition of WHORE
1
: a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : prostitute; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman
2
: a male who engages in sexual acts for money
3
: a venal or unscrupulous person
The term whore is neither gender specific, nor does it always characterize sexual acts, as demonstrated with the highlighted definition. Take, for example, the term corporate whore.
Furthermore, I am sure Erin Pizzey has put forth more than her fair share in terms of societal contribution. And what has she gotten for suggesting that domestic violence is reciprocal instead of a male-perpetrator only affair? Why, only death threats and boycotts of course.
