Who Shot MLK?

[Lt. Fred]

Here's a question: why did Lee Harvey Oswald shoot JFK? Why did Jack Ruby shoot LHO? Why didn't the FBI investigate at all?

My theory is that LHO was a Soviet sleeper agent who got stolen by the Cubans. Castro wanted revenge for the Bay of Pigs, so he decided to bump off Kennedy. Jack Ruby was probably just a really angry citizen.

Personally I lean more to the Mafia theory: LHO was hired by the Mob somehow- the Mob hated the Kennedies for various good reasons. Then it became apparent that he would talk, so Mafia buttonman Jack Ruby shot him right in the face. Hoover was either being paid by the Mob, or was temperamentally on the side of the Mob, so he refused to investigate in any serious way, while stopping others from investigating also.

[chitoryu12]

People tend to talk a lot about how many enemies JFK had when suggesting "proof" that he was assassinated by some powerful country or organization.

What if all of those enemies WERE real and DID want to see him die, but some nutbag Soviet sympathizer named Lee Harvey Oswald bumped him off before they got the chance?

[Askold]

People tend to talk a lot about how many enemies JFK had when suggesting "proof" that he was assassinated by some powerful country or organization.

What if all of those enemies WERE real and DID want to see him die, but some nutbag Soviet sympathizer named Lee Harvey Oswald bumped him off before they got the chance?

Which reminds me of this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4meFC1ee7Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4meFC1ee7Q</a>

[chitoryu12]

I should point out as well that there ARE conspiracy theories that are proven to exist. The problem is that the vast majority of them are meant to cover up fuckups that military officers or politicians committed and they usually get revealed in short order when actual evidence appears (and I don't mean circumstantial evidence or some elderly man testifying from a sanitarium).

An assassination conspiracy being derailed when a random whacko does the job for you is exactly how the world would work.

[Meshakhad]

Oswald was a bit nutty and wanted to defect to the Soviets.  In fact, he'd done so once before.  So he killed Kennedy to try and get into the USSR's good graces.

Ruby was pissed off about the assassination and was high on Phenmatrazine, an upper.  He was not rational, but wanted to "redeem" the city of Dallas.

There was an investigation, a quite thorough one.  However, the results don't support the conspiracy theories, so conspiracy theorists ignore them in favor of whatever sounds more paranoid.

There is one conspiracy theory that was proven right, though. The KGB worked to popularize the "Who Shot JFK?" conspiracy theory.

Which immediately puts them up on the list of suspects.

New idea: some nobody in the KGB wanted to impress his superiors. By sheer fortune, he managed to pull it off.

My other theory is that JFK was shot by JFK from the future where he caused World War III, so he went back in time to kill himself to prevent it.

[chitoryu12]

New idea: some nobody in the KGB wanted to impress his superiors. By sheer fortune, he managed to pull it off.

So who is this "nobody"?

[PosthumanHeresy]

New idea: some nobody in the KGB wanted to impress his superiors. By sheer fortune, he managed to pull it off.

So who is this "nobody"?

Just some formerly high ranking KGB agent. No, not Vladimir Putin. He joined right out of high school, in 1975.

[Lt. Fred]

People tend to talk a lot about how many enemies JFK had when suggesting "proof" that he was assassinated by some powerful country or organization.

What if all of those enemies WERE real and DID want to see him die, but some nutbag Soviet sympathizer named Lee Harvey Oswald bumped him off before they got the chance?

Maybe that was true. Unfortunately, the FBI never investigated, so we have no idea.

[chitoryu12]

New idea: some nobody in the KGB wanted to impress his superiors. By sheer fortune, he managed to pull it off.

So who is this "nobody"?

Just some formerly high ranking KGB agent. No, not Vladimir Putin. He joined right out of high school, in 1975.

But.....who?

[PosthumanHeresy]

New idea: some nobody in the KGB wanted to impress his superiors. By sheer fortune, he managed to pull it off.

So who is this "nobody"?

Just some formerly high ranking KGB agent. No, not Vladimir Putin. He joined right out of high school, in 1975.

But.....who?

You're not getting the "secret" in "secret agent man".

[chitoryu12]

Right now your idea has about as much merit as "Satan did it."

[Lt. Fred]

My emails are probably read by an NSA agent. I have no idea which NSA agent. That is not evidence that he doesn't exist.

[PosthumanHeresy]

My emails are probably read by an NSA agent. I have no idea which NSA agent. That is not evidence that he doesn't exist.

Or, my AP tests are graded by a teacher. I have no idea which teacher. That is not evidence that the teacher does not exist.

[chitoryu12]

My emails are probably read by an NSA agent. I have no idea which NSA agent. That is not evidence that he doesn't exist.

Except that we have evidence of the NSA actually illicitly monitoring private communications. Where's the evidence that the KGB set up Kennedy's death?

Also, if I remember correctly you're in Australia. The NSA isn't exactly concerned with YOUR emails.

[Lt. Fred]

My emails are probably read by an NSA agent. I have no idea which NSA agent. That is not evidence that he doesn't exist.

Except that we have evidence of the NSA actually illicitly monitoring private communications. Where's the evidence that the KGB set up Kennedy's death?

Also, if I remember correctly you're in Australia. The NSA isn't exactly concerned with YOUR emails.

The NSA mostly reads foreigners emails.