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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2014, 11:20:38 pm »
The American Revolution was fundamentally different from what a modern revolution in America would be. In the former, both sides had to square off against each other with guns that didn't work half the time and couldn't hit you from a football field away when they did. Today, the government can kill you from above from another state before you even realize they want to. Any revolution would have to be from within the government itself. I'm not sure I like that thought, but it is what it is.
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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2014, 11:59:44 pm »
"Being homosexual is a choice"

By definition, being homosexual means having a sexual attraction to the same sex, but not the opposite.
To make that "Choice" if it indeed was one,  one would have to conciously make the decision to be attracted to the same-sex, conciously make the decision not to be attracted to the opposite sex, and somehow manage to convince their body to follow this, since the body has plenty of involuntary sexual responses (such as erections).

Furthermore, considering that most, if not all, gay people say that it's not a choice, they'd have to somehow forget that they ever made a choice in the first place.
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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2014, 12:14:12 am »
"Being homosexual is a choice"

By definition, being homosexual means having a sexual attraction to the same sex, but not the opposite.
To make that "Choice" if it indeed was one,  one would have to conciously make the decision to be attracted to the same-sex, conciously make the decision not to be attracted to the opposite sex, and somehow manage to convince their body to follow this, since the body has plenty of involuntary sexual responses (such as erections).

Furthermore, considering that most, if not all, gay people say that it's not a choice, they'd have to somehow forget that they ever made a choice in the first place.
And more importantly, why would it matter if it was?

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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2014, 12:16:44 am »
"Being homosexual is a choice"

By definition, being homosexual means having a sexual attraction to the same sex, but not the opposite.
To make that "Choice" if it indeed was one,  one would have to conciously make the decision to be attracted to the same-sex, conciously make the decision not to be attracted to the opposite sex, and somehow manage to convince their body to follow this, since the body has plenty of involuntary sexual responses (such as erections).

Furthermore, considering that most, if not all, gay people say that it's not a choice, they'd have to somehow forget that they ever made a choice in the first place.
And more importantly, why would it matter if it was?

Because choices don't deserve rights.

That's why we don't respect the choice to be Christian.  Wait...
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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2014, 12:18:18 am »
"How do you know you're gay, ever slept with a chick?"

To this I always want to say something like "Well how do you know you're straight, ever slept with a guy?" I think a lot of the people who say that kind of thing genuinely don't think it through, and they'd know the "how do you know if you haven't tried?" argument is bullshit if they really thought about it. Also I've always wanted to add something like "I'm right here if you ever want to find out, big little boy~" in the fruitiest voice I can do, but that would be a bad idea, I don't particularly want to get beaten.


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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2014, 08:30:19 am »
It also begs the question "why on earth would anybody choose to be gay in a world full of homophobes?"

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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2014, 09:12:45 am »
If it were a choice, I'd choose to be gay in a heartbeat. No risk of pregnancy whatsoever would be a dream come true.

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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2014, 10:32:40 am »
I'd chose so Tumblr would start making since.

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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2014, 03:03:21 am »

Well, more like "Feminist answers to libertarian-conservative nonsense"

"Women have it worse in other countries"
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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2014, 01:22:38 pm »
"If you don't like something in comic books/video games/animu/mango, don't watch/read it!"
If you don't like A Serbia Film, don't watch it.

Censorship accomplishes nothing and does way more harm on its own.
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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2014, 01:46:40 pm »
Well yeah, but the "don't watch it" phrase is mainly directed at any sort of criticism of video games/comics/ect.

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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2014, 01:54:04 pm »
Well yeah, but the "don't watch it" phrase is mainly directed at any sort of criticism of video games/comics/ect.

As it should be. If the production of said media involved violating the law in its jurisdiction, that's an issue to take up with the producers.
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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2014, 01:25:31 pm »
Soooo, criticism is wrong now?

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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2014, 04:54:44 pm »

Now that I've ruined Art's day...
Where is anyone saying that criticism is wrong?
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Re: Liberal Answers to Conservative Nonsense
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2014, 05:02:20 pm »
Where is anyone saying that criticism is wrong?

Mostly that Ironchew is arguing in support of the "If you don't like it, don't watch it" argument, which is used to dismiss criticism.
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