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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2021, 04:24:24 pm »
No, the "rickety electoral system" goes down to a lack of standards for what sorts of systems are used in elections, and the fact that they're run by partisan officials, and the fact that rules over access to the ballot for both voters and candidates can be readily manipulated to partisan ends, and how long it takes to count votes, and so on.

And yes, many elected Democrats, including most in leadership positions, are not left-wing. They would not fit into left-wing parties in most other democracies. They are, by and large, Red Tories. (Way back in 2004, I noted that John Kerry would make a great leader of the Conservative Party of Canada.) As for Hillary Clinton, can you not see when I'm using her as an example of how identity is used to try to override policy concerns, such as her vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq? Is that nuance beyond you?

As for "corporate authoritarianism", that's what happens when private companies are allowed to control what has become the de facto public square--they decide what is and is not permissible speech.

EDIT: I reread Dr. King's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" recently. It's really chilling how many of his points, especially about moderates preferring "order" to justice, "a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice", and such, still resonate today, and not merely in the context of race relations.

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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2021, 04:40:03 pm »
The social media companies don't enforce their rules, and people complain they're letting the right get away with all of its shit. They do enforce their rules, and they get people like you and Greenwald conveniently agreeing with the "dissident" alt-right that this is corporate authoritarianism. So no, I don't really take this very seriously. I'm actually hoping they ban your asshole in chief from Twitter too.

Oh I am sure you folks have nothing against women, just THIS specific woman and that specific woman and this specific woman and that specific woman.

So more or less more weasel words from you about how it MUST be partisan officials "rigging" the election against the great messiah. Just not outright saying it.
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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2021, 05:39:33 pm »
Sanders lost because of Sanders. He did not do--reportedly would not do--what he had to do in order to maximise his chances of winning.

As for having anything against women, have you seen, let's say, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or Ilhan Omar, or Rashida Tlaib, or Ayanna Pressley, or Pramila Jayapal, or Barbara Lee (the only person brave enough to vote against the 2001 AUMF), or Nina Turner? Yes, it is those specific people, and it is because of policy concerns. (If you want to see how silly your position is, it's as silly as insinuating that your opposition to Sanders is rooted in secret anti-Semitism.)

And the problem with social media companies is that their rules are too vague and overbroad and get applied not only against the alt-right but other groups as well (and yes, I know you also hate many of the ones on the left that have been removed), at whim without consistency. Twitter, Facebook, and the like are the de facto public square and should be regulated as such, with free speech protections applying there. The answer to bad speech is not to silence it, but to point out how silly it is with better speech and stop it from gaining traction.

EDIT: To reiterate: It is possible for people with radically different ideologies to come to the same conclusion on certain issues while strongly disagreeing on other issues.
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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2021, 09:46:25 pm »
If the Chapo Trap House dickbags got their social media yanked, then good riddance to bad rubbish. The dirtbag left's homophobia ("the gayest thing about him is that he looks like a toy poodle lol") isn't any better than when the alt-right does it. The rules are very clear, and the people who got banned got banned because they violated the rules. I would utterly disagree with you about FREEZE PEACH. As we saw from the complete deplatforming of Milo Yiannopolous it completely destroyed him, to the extent barely anyone cared when he attempted to resurface.

I wouldn't make the point of the misogyny issue if it wasn't for spamming Liz Warren with snake emojis, treating AOC like a traitor for not backing Bernie more...
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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2021, 09:57:00 pm »
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Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

Also, it must be nice having views that are entirely in line with what is deemed acceptable by Silicon Valley corporate oligarchs and the politicians and journalists who put pressure on them to censor opposing viewpoints.

EDIT: Pro-Palestine groups get taken down all the time.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2021, 10:51:13 am »
Glenn Greenwald is NOT a leftist.  He just plays one when he finds the position convinient.  What Glenn Greenwald is, is anti-Western World.  Which is why he's so quick to defend people like Vlad Putin, who are absolute evil, but are fight the "true villains" of the Western World.

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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2021, 07:51:47 pm »
On the topic of "Republicans are lolcows":

https://www.braun.senate.gov/braun-introduces-fix-stop-democrats-banning-state-tax-cuts

Sen. Braun has introduced a bill to repeal a provision of the recent bailout package that bars state governments from cutting taxes. (Specifically, if a state changes its taxation structure in a way that leads to a net revenue loss, that state must then pay an amount to the federal government equal to the amount of tax revenue lost, effectively doubling the revenue loss from any tax cut.)

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/543559-republican-attorneys-general-threaten-action-on-stimulus

Also, Republican-controlled states are considering suing the federal government over the provision.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: President Joe Biden's massive clean up effort
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2021, 01:30:23 pm »
Glenn Greenwald is NOT a leftist.  He just plays one when he finds the position convinient.  What Glenn Greenwald is, is anti-Western World.  Which is why he's so quick to defend people like Vlad Putin, who are absolute evil, but are fight the "true villains" of the Western World.

Yeah, exactly what I noticed about him - he's exactly the kind of person to back anyone who tears down the west and through malice or incompetence enables Russia and China.
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