Worst of Social Justice

[Witchyjoshy]

I think it's worth noting that fat guys are just as likely as thin guys to insult fat girls.

Also, guys get a lot of shit for looking/doing anything/being anything too "female-like".  So if you happen to have a more feminine frame, you're screwed.  And of course, they associate feminine men with homosexuality.

So, in short, men view "womenly" men as "pussies, faggots, pansies", and men view "manly" women as "pretenders, rabid feminists, misandrists, hypocrites."

[I am lizard]

I think it's worth noting that fat guys are just as likely as thin guys to insult fat girls.

Also, guys get a lot of shit for looking/doing anything/being anything too "female-like".  So if you happen to have a more feminine frame, you're screwed.  And of course, they associate feminine men with homosexuality.

So, in short, men view "womenly" men as "pussies, faggots, pansies", and men view "manly" women as "pretenders, rabid feminists, misandrists, hypocrites."

More or less, yaw.

[LeTipex]

A Song of Ice and Fire is fucking misogynistic! I mean, look at how the women are treated!

Look, there's a big difference between the setting being misogynistic and the story being misogynistic.

I have heard some legitimate criticisms on how the story depicts statutory rape, I haven't read the book so I can't make an informed opinion.

Eh, it's a bit iffy to apply modern notions about statutory rape to a story set in a medieval world.

Statutory rape is a weird concept even in our modern world, though. I mean, I realise why it exist (even thought the word "rape" is a shitty word to use in this context, since you know, consensual sex as rape is a big nope), but there's juste no magical barrier at 18 years old that'd justify such a concept.

And with that, I'm done : if anyone wants to talk about that subject more, it'd be better to open another topic.

Consensual sex can be rape if the victim isn't in the proper state of mind to make the decision, see having sex with someone intoxicated.
(And yes, 18 years is pretty arbitrary and really not based on any scientific data.

NO. Consensual sex can never, by definition, be rape.
If someone isn't able to make the decision (eg too young or too intoxicated), then it's not consensual.

[Ultimate Paragon]

I think it's worth noting that fat guys are just as likely as thin guys to insult fat girls.

Also, guys get a lot of shit for looking/doing anything/being anything too "female-like".  So if you happen to have a more feminine frame, you're screwed.  And of course, they associate feminine men with homosexuality.

So, in short, men view "womenly" men as "pussies, faggots, pansies", and men view "manly" women as "pretenders, rabid feminists, misandrists, hypocrites."

More or less, yaw.

Actually, feminine men tend to have it worse than masculine women.

[I am lizard]

A Song of Ice and Fire is fucking misogynistic! I mean, look at how the women are treated!

Look, there's a big difference between the setting being misogynistic and the story being misogynistic.

I have heard some legitimate criticisms on how the story depicts statutory rape, I haven't read the book so I can't make an informed opinion.

Eh, it's a bit iffy to apply modern notions about statutory rape to a story set in a medieval world.

Statutory rape is a weird concept even in our modern world, though. I mean, I realise why it exist (even thought the word "rape" is a shitty word to use in this context, since you know, consensual sex as rape is a big nope), but there's juste no magical barrier at 18 years old that'd justify such a concept.

And with that, I'm done : if anyone wants to talk about that subject more, it'd be better to open another topic.

Consensual sex can be rape if the victim isn't in the proper state of mind to make the decision, see having sex with someone intoxicated.
(And yes, 18 years is pretty arbitrary and really not based on any scientific data.

NO. Consensual sex can never, by definition, be rape.
If someone isn't able to make the decision (eg too young or too intoxicated), then it's not consensual.

Yeah, I suppose that's true,
we should probably move this to a different thread now.

[Damen]

I'm hoping this is a poe, but if not then SJWs once again show us how "Trigger Warnings" no longer mean a god damn thing.





Also:

[solar.]

[soapbox]

There's a goddamn difference between an anxiety trigger and a PTSD trigger. Trigger warnings are for the latter.

[/soapbox]

[Random Gal]

I think it's worth noting that fat guys are just as likely as thin guys to insult fat girls.

Also, guys get a lot of shit for looking/doing anything/being anything too "female-like".  So if you happen to have a more feminine frame, you're screwed.  And of course, they associate feminine men with homosexuality.

So, in short, men view "womenly" men as "pussies, faggots, pansies", and men view "manly" women as "pretenders, rabid feminists, misandrists, hypocrites."

More or less, yaw.

Actually, feminine men tend to have it worse than masculine women.

True, as "manliness" is often made some kind of extremely narrowly-defined standard to prevent all but the "best" from being legitimized.

Also part of the reason why MTFs tend to get more negative attention than FTMs, most likely.

[Thejebusfire]

Speaking of which:

[I am lizard]

I'm hoping this is a poe, but if not then SJWs once again show us how "Trigger Warnings" no longer mean a god damn thing.





Also:

I'm on mobile, what do they say?

[ironbite]

Stupid shit.

[I am lizard]

Oh, just read them now.

[Thejebusfire]

You went for a walk? KILL YOURSELF OPPRESSOR!

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[Damen]

[Ultimate Paragon]

The term "manchild" is horribly derogatory and demeaning towards autistic people.

"Manchild" just means you're immature.  I've known plenty of mature autistic people, and plenty of immature neurotypical people.