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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4650 on: October 15, 2014, 12:01:52 am »


Well wtf are you then, an Irken invader?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4651 on: October 15, 2014, 04:05:39 am »
Cerim Treascair, and RavynousHunter:

Japanese artists and writers have often taken names and imagery from western myths while making fiction. Often it is simply used "because it sounds foreign" or "because we wanted something mystical." It is not supposed to be 100% accurate use of the source material.

Western fiction has also used myths similarly. Are "Golems" in D&D 100% honest representation of the Jewish mythology? Flesh golems, iron golems...

Other mythologies are also used in fiction commonly with varying degrees of "accuracy." Stargate used a lot of myths but made it so that the myths were based on alien races. Should someone be furious that Ra is supposed to be a god not some alien overlord?

It is just that the "go make me a sandwich" seems to assume that any reference to something should be 100% accurate AND does not understand that someone might not MEAN to make a 100% accurate representation of a myth or religion in a fictional story.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4652 on: October 15, 2014, 01:48:42 pm »
Cerim Treascair, and RavynousHunter:

Japanese artists and writers have often taken names and imagery from western myths while making fiction. Often it is simply used "because it sounds foreign" or "because we wanted something mystical." It is not supposed to be 100% accurate use of the source material.

Western fiction has also used myths similarly. Are "Golems" in D&D 100% honest representation of the Jewish mythology? Flesh golems, iron golems...

Other mythologies are also used in fiction commonly with varying degrees of "accuracy." Stargate used a lot of myths but made it so that the myths were based on alien races. Should someone be furious that Ra is supposed to be a god not some alien overlord?

It is just that the "go make me a sandwich" seems to assume that any reference to something should be 100% accurate AND does not understand that someone might not MEAN to make a 100% accurate representation of a myth or religion in a fictional story.
That's without even taking into account that since mythology is (was) a living subject, there is no perfectly accurate representation of mythology. Case in point : Anubis, defender of the sun against the night, or brother-killer waging war on his nephew Orus? Depends on the story and the era of the myth. Myth and stories change with time, and so do cultures and their components (from food to dress to rituals and whanot)

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4653 on: October 15, 2014, 06:06:34 pm »
Cerim Treascair, and RavynousHunter:

Japanese artists and writers have often taken names and imagery from western myths while making fiction. Often it is simply used "because it sounds foreign" or "because we wanted something mystical." It is not supposed to be 100% accurate use of the source material.

Western fiction has also used myths similarly. Are "Golems" in D&D 100% honest representation of the Jewish mythology? Flesh golems, iron golems...

Other mythologies are also used in fiction commonly with varying degrees of "accuracy." Stargate used a lot of myths but made it so that the myths were based on alien races. Should someone be furious that Ra is supposed to be a god not some alien overlord?

It is just that the "go make me a sandwich" seems to assume that any reference to something should be 100% accurate AND does not understand that someone might not MEAN to make a 100% accurate representation of a myth or religion in a fictional story.
That's without even taking into account that since mythology is (was) a living subject, there is no perfectly accurate representation of mythology. Case in point : Anubis, defender of the sun against the night, or brother-killer waging war on his nephew Orus? Depends on the story and the era of the myth. Myth and stories change with time, and so do cultures and their components (from food to dress to rituals and whanot)

Fair points.  I yield, in that regard.  I'm not well-read enough.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4654 on: October 16, 2014, 12:01:48 am »
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people calling themselves “queer” just lets me know that they’re probably privileged enough for it to never have been used against them as a slur lol

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4655 on: October 16, 2014, 12:14:40 am »
Another thing that bothers me about PZ is that he still comes across as kind of nasty when it comes to talking about religious people (I'm sorry, but that "Wafergate" thing was totally immature regardless of how unhinged people's reactions were).

I thought crackergate was hilarious; it was PZ at his best.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4656 on: October 18, 2014, 08:13:14 pm »

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4657 on: October 18, 2014, 08:17:14 pm »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4658 on: October 18, 2014, 08:31:17 pm »
Another thing that bothers me about PZ is that he still comes across as kind of nasty when it comes to talking about religious people (I'm sorry, but that "Wafergate" thing was totally immature regardless of how unhinged people's reactions were).

I thought crackergate was hilarious; it was PZ at his best.

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Considering how people's reactions to the incident were completely bashit insane (they were almost identical to the Jihadists who calling for a fatwa on the Danish cartoonist who drew Muhammed), I have no qualms whatsoever about PZ's "heinous cracker abuse" joke. They were asking for it.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4659 on: October 18, 2014, 10:09:58 pm »

I wonder if this is some weird trolling thing to stir up controversy in hopes of boosting profits from the resulting arguments.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4660 on: October 18, 2014, 10:14:00 pm »

I wonder if this is some weird trolling thing to stir up controversy in hopes of boosting profits from the resulting arguments.
Gee, ya think?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4661 on: October 18, 2014, 10:56:39 pm »

I wonder if this is some weird trolling thing to stir up controversy in hopes of boosting profits from the resulting arguments.
Gee, ya think?
Another possibility is that Valve takes a long time to release things.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4663 on: October 19, 2014, 03:46:07 am »
Today in started off good but then went wrong theatre...
Excuse me, sir, do you have a minute to talk about your lord and savior, Hannibal Barca?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4664 on: October 19, 2014, 06:26:25 am »
Wait, you can rape people with your eyes? Shit, I've gotta make a lot of apologies...