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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6555 on: July 09, 2015, 11:26:41 pm »
Aren't those guys like the Juggalos of Japan, though? Or was that those grotesque, garishly attired doll-people?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6556 on: July 10, 2015, 12:01:07 am »
Are you talking about the lolitas? Or the Gyaru?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6557 on: July 10, 2015, 12:07:26 am »
I think he's talking about that really small subset of cosplayers that wear those really fucking creepy doll anime faces. I would link an image but I don't feel like looking for those things cause they give me fucking nightmares.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6558 on: July 10, 2015, 08:55:55 am »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6559 on: July 11, 2015, 09:21:41 am »
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To me, it seems much more likely that Samus is trans at 6′3″ than cis.

And trans women are real women so all it does is add another interesting layer to her character rather than make her “not really a woman”

"Women can't be tall unless they're trans!"

Jesus Christ, that's sexist.  Gwendoline Christie (who plays Brienne of Tarth on Game of Thrones) is 6'3 and she's cis.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6560 on: July 11, 2015, 10:25:36 am »
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To me, it seems much more likely that Samus is trans at 6′3″ than cis.

And trans women are real women so all it does is add another interesting layer to her character rather than make her “not really a woman”

"Women can't be tall unless they're trans!"

Jesus Christ, that's sexist.  Gwendoline Christie (who plays Brienne of Tarth on Game of Thrones) is 6'3 and she's cis.

that, and you can always ad lib something about living in space that makes you grow taller with the apparent lack of gravity. or something. besides, samus is a girl, always has been. never had boy parts. never was trans. just like friggin' link. (zelda could be considered at the very least androgynous, seeing how she was disguised as a guy for years).
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6561 on: July 11, 2015, 10:28:18 am »
I thought they explained that as her using magic?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6562 on: July 11, 2015, 10:33:33 am »
Actually I think the Space-bird-aliens (Chozo?) did some modifications to Samus. If I remember correctly she was a human colonists who was saved by the Chozo(?) after her family had been killed and the aliens modified her body as they turned her into a super-soldier (which may be why she is so tall.) I think the point was that the aliens were so advanced that they had some transhumanism/alienism in almost all of them and modified their bodies to suit whatever job they were doing. Samus got the armour and can even turn into a ball because of those modifications.

...Most of the backstory is in the manga but I don't remember any mention of her being transperson.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6563 on: July 11, 2015, 10:36:15 am »


both can claim rape. that's why it's in "worst".
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6564 on: July 11, 2015, 11:00:22 am »
Wait, so the man is automatically at fault even though he was drunk and by their logic could not consent too?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6565 on: July 11, 2015, 11:04:28 am »
both can claim rape. that's why it's in "worst".

I saw a long debate over that one (or a similarly worded one.) Some claimed that obviously the poster means that Josie was unconscious or at least completely wasted and therefore the poster is correct. Except that in that case it should have been worded in such a way. As it is, the poster presents a double standard, particularly by saying that drunk women cannot consent and placing the responsibility only on guys.

...And what about homosexual hook ups? If it is two guys are they both rapists? Two women in the same scenario means that neither of them is a rapist and both are victims?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6566 on: July 11, 2015, 11:07:00 am »
Actually I think the Space-bird-aliens (Chozo?) did some modifications to Samus. If I remember correctly she was a human colonists who was saved by the Chozo(?) after her family had been killed and the aliens modified her body as they turned her into a super-soldier (which may be why she is so tall.) I think the point was that the aliens were so advanced that they had some transhumanism/alienism in almost all of them and modified their bodies to suit whatever job they were doing. Samus got the armour and can even turn into a ball because of those modifications.

...Most of the backstory is in the manga but I don't remember any mention of her being transperson.

You're right.  If anything, she's transhuman, not transgender.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6567 on: July 11, 2015, 11:08:05 am »
Wait, so the man is automatically at fault even though he was drunk and by their logic could not consent too?
If a guy is sober enough to still get it up...

Delusional but consistent.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6568 on: July 11, 2015, 11:27:05 am »
Wait, so the man is automatically at fault even though he was drunk and by their logic could not consent too?
If a guy is sober enough to still get it up...

Delusional but consistent.

don't quote me on this, but with certain meds you can get it up even when drunk as a skunk. viagra and certain antidepressants come to mind. then again, ever heard of the "fear boner"? a man gets a hardon because he's scared for his life? that's why in high school certain guys pull the periscope technique when doing a class presentation. high heartrate, high blood pressure.... but almost unprovable, as nearly no man can go to the police and file a rape report.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6569 on: July 11, 2015, 05:06:33 pm »
both can claim rape. that's why it's in "worst".

I saw a long debate over that one (or a similarly worded one.) Some claimed that obviously the poster means that Josie was unconscious or at least completely wasted and therefore the poster is correct. Except that in that case it should have been worded in such a way. As it is, the poster presents a double standard, particularly by saying that drunk women cannot consent and placing the responsibility only on guys.

...And what about homosexual hook ups? If it is two guys are they both rapists? Two women in the same scenario means that neither of them is a rapist and both are victims?

All very good points.  Now for the rebuttal.

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