Worst of Social Justice

[TheUnknown]

It's like they think white people just randomly fell out of wormhole.  The actual argument I've seen for this is basically, "white people can't even claim their own native European culture as 'white culture' because poc existed in those places and were erased from history by white people, so white people literally have no culture of their own".

[mellenORL]

Who were the supposed "POC" the white Europeans erased in Europe? The Neanderthals (who often had red or blonde hair, btw)?

[guizonde]

Who were the supposed "POC" the white Europeans erased in Europe? The Neanderthals (who often had red or blonde hair, btw)?

well, picts could be considered blue...

[mellenORL]

They painted themselves...appropriators!

[dpareja]

There were POCs in Europe, but then white people stole their time machine and kept them from ever having existed in the first place.

[Lt. Fred]

Does this mean the patriarchy isn't a white creation?

How about Hayden? Mozart?

[dpareja]

Does this mean the patriarchy isn't a white creation?

How about Hayden? Mozart?

Music was invented by POCs, so they're cultural appropriators.

[niam2023]

Social Justice: According to the nuts, its about supremacy, not equality.

[TheUnknown]

When they say "poc existed in those places", they mean that poc were actually a part of those societies (i.e. black Englishmen, etc.) not that they were natives driven out.  That's what the user medievalpoc's entire blog is about.  Basically, because poc were members of those cultures, white people can't claim them as "white culture".  Another user argued that "white people lost the right to having their own culture when they took over the world".

[Ultimate Paragon]

While there were atrocities perpetrated against Native Americans, the vast majority of those deaths were caused by disease.  You might as well say Africans are trying to commit genocide because of the AIDS pandemic.

[Canadian Mojo]

While there were atrocities perpetrated against Native Americans, the vast majority of those deaths were caused by disease.  You might as well say Africans are trying to commit genocide because of the AIDS pandemic.

Fort Pitt, 1763.

Proof of intent that they were willing to give disease a hand if nothing else.

[Ultimate Paragon]

While there were atrocities perpetrated against Native Americans, the vast majority of those deaths were caused by disease.  You might as well say Africans are trying to commit genocide because of the AIDS pandemic.

Fort Pitt, 1763.

Proof of intent that they were willing to give disease a hand if nothing else.

That was the only documented incidence of smallpox blankets, and we don't even know if it actually worked.  There are plenty of reasons to complain about white people's treatment of Native Americans (The Trail of Tears, Wounded Knee, etc.), there's no reason to invent or exaggerate any.

[I am lizard]

While there were atrocities perpetrated against Native Americans, the vast majority of those deaths were caused by disease.  You might as well say Africans are trying to commit genocide because of the AIDS pandemic.

One could argue many of those deaths were caused from poor living conditions (being forced to live in small areas)

[Canadian Mojo]

While there were atrocities perpetrated against Native Americans, the vast majority of those deaths were caused by disease.  You might as well say Africans are trying to commit genocide because of the AIDS pandemic.

Fort Pitt, 1763.

Proof of intent that they were willing to give disease a hand if nothing else.

That was the only documented incidence of smallpox blankets, and we don't even know if it actually worked.  There are plenty of reasons to complain about white people's treatment of Native Americans (The Trail of Tears, Wounded Knee, etc.), there's no reason to invent or exaggerate any.

Your initial statement makes it sound as though we bare very little responsibility for what happened to the natives. This followup statement is much more accurate as to our level of culpability and I probably wouldn't have said boo if you had led with it... although 'we don't know if it actually worked' is awfully close to 'but the bullet missed, why are you charging me with attempted murder?'

[Ultimate Paragon]

While there were atrocities perpetrated against Native Americans, the vast majority of those deaths were caused by disease.  You might as well say Africans are trying to commit genocide because of the AIDS pandemic.

Fort Pitt, 1763.

Proof of intent that they were willing to give disease a hand if nothing else.

That was the only documented incidence of smallpox blankets, and we don't even know if it actually worked.  There are plenty of reasons to complain about white people's treatment of Native Americans (The Trail of Tears, Wounded Knee, etc.), there's no reason to invent or exaggerate any.

Your initial statement makes it sound as though we bare very little responsibility for what happened to the natives. This followup statement is much more accurate as to our level of culpability and I probably wouldn't have said boo if you had led with it... although 'we don't know if it actually worked' is awfully close to 'but the bullet missed, why are you charging me with attempted murder?'

Okay, maybe I should've been clearer.  Mea culpa.